Tuesday, September 9, 2025

The Epstein Files. What's in them that Trump wants to keep them hidden?*


It's absolutely clear that he does, and all the "well Biden didn't release" them doesn't change that fact. 

Something is in the Epstein material that he wants to never see the light of day.

What is it?

Did Epstein procure for Trump, and is Trump a hebephile or ephebophile?

That'd be a good reason for Trump to want to keep the materials hidden, and there's circumstantial evidence that Trump has some attraction to the shallow end of the pond.

One is simply his connection with Epstein, although that's clearly not enough.  It's very clear that Epstein traveled in rich and powerful circles as the rich and powerful do, and one of the things about that is that some rich and powerful people are creeps that the rich and powerful are nonetheless drawn to. Hugh Hefner provides a prime example.  In the heyday of Playboy, which fished near the legal limit itself, lots of people went to be parties at the Playboy Mansion, but not all of them were sexual degenerates.

Still, the counter evidence is provided by the same thing.  Some were sexual degenerates and weird creepy acts of sex happened there.  The place facilitated it.  Now we aren't surprised that James Brown and Bill Cosby were pretty creepy in part because they frequented the place.

Men like Epstein have a way of seeing who is willing to let their standards slip, blur the lines, and blur them some more.  We don't really know what happened with Prince Andrew and the teenage Virginia Giuffre, but it seems something did.  If something did, it's unlikely that it happened on the day of Epstein's and Andrew's first encounter.

Trump was a friend of Epstein for years. And now the Democrats have released the original (which apparently the earlier variant was not) of Trump's birthday greetings to Epstein.** The main difference between the two pornographic doodles is that the first one (I'm confused why there are two) was of an adult women with fully developed boobs. The second one is hard not to take as being of a very young girl with small boobs . . .shall we say a teen girl?

A doodle is is just that, but the conclusions here are hard not to draw, even if they're incorrect.  Most male doodles of naked women go for larger mammaries, as men like them.  Small ones. . .well that's odd. . . 

And Epstein isn't the only sexually questionable person that Trump has hung out with.  There was John Casablancas whom he bought the Miss Universe Pageant from who hosted parties featuring young cheesecake and whose last wife was 17 when they married.  He was 50.  No normal 50 year old is interested in a 17 year old for a bride.  Casablancas is accused of having had sex with girls in their mid teens, but he denied it during his lifetime, and those claims may not have been true.

There's also plenty of statements from accusers about Trump directly.  As we earlier noted.

Let's start with this. There may be more on the Trump/Epstein connection that I had known.  Ed Krassenstein reports on Twitter, with some comments by me, note the following:

Trump personally hosted a private party at Mar-a-Lago in 1992 attended only by himself, Jeffrey Epstein, and 28 young women, according to Trump associate George Houraney. (Which wouldn't necessarily mean that they were underaged).

Trump’s name appeared in Epstein’s black book with at least 14 phone numbers, per Vanity Fair.

He flew on Epstein’s plane at least seven times, and Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell flew on Trump’s jet in 2000—alongside a very young girl brought by Epstein. (But Trump was not on the plane at the time).

A 14-year-old girl, groomed by Maxwell, was introduced to Trump at Mar-a-Lago, per sworn testimony from an Epstein victim. (Which is super creepy, but doesn't mean that  Trump bedded her).

Another woman accused Trump of raping her at age 13 during an Epstein-hosted party, even claiming Epstein and Trump argued over “who would take her virginity.” She later dropped the suit after alleged threats. (But this might not be true, and isn't verified). 

In 2000, after Epstein was accused of propositioning another underage girl at Mar-a-Lago, Trump still told New York Magazine that Epstein was “a terrific guy.”

Trump publicly wished Ghislaine Maxwell “well” after her arrest for trafficking minors.

Epstein called Trump his “wingman” in a recording, saying they shared a taste for young women. (But that isn't Trump acknowledging the same).

Former model Stacey Williams says Trump groped her in 1993 during a meeting arranged by Epstein.

Trump and Epstein were frequently seen together in New York and Palm Beach throughout the 1990s and early 2000s.

And it doesn’t stop there—Trump surrounded himself with others deeply tied to Epstein:

Alan Dershowitz, Trump’s impeachment lawyer, was accused of sexual misconduct by Virginia Giuffre, who said Epstein forced her to have sex with him. Dershowitz also defended Epstein in court. (Dershowitz denies the rape).

Alexander Acosta, Trump’s Labor Secretary, was the prosecutor who gave Epstein his sweetheart deal in Florida—granting him and his co-conspirators immunity. Trump later rewarded him with a Cabinet post.

Steve Bannon, Trump’s former strategist, worked on efforts to rehabilitate Epstein’s public image after he was accused of trafficking minors.

Roger Stone, one of Trump’s closest advisors, defended Epstein publicly and downplayed the abuse allegations.

George Nader, connected to Trump’s 2016 campaign, was later convicted of possessing child pornography and linked to Epstein investigations. (That doesn't really mean anything in regard to Trump).

William Barr, Trump’s Attorney General, has no direct link to Epstein—but his father hired Epstein to teach at a private school despite Epstein having no degree, raising long-standing questions. (This also means nothing).

What's it all mean?  Perhaps nothing whatsoever. 

Does any of that prove he's a kiddy diddler?  No, but all of it is enough to raise real questions.

And then there's direct connections between Epstein and Trump, involving at least one young woman that are known to exist.  Virginian Giuffre's father was a maintenance manager Mar-a-Lago property and he got her a job there.  From there, she met Ghislaine Maxwell working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy.  Maxwell recruited here, and apparently didn't worry about Trump learning what that recruitment meant or was willing to risk it.  Trump has claimed that his break with Epstein came as Epstein "stole employees".

And as with Trump's birthday wishes to Epstein, he clearly knew what Epstein's proclivities were.  He noted that they both liked the ladies and Epstein liked them on "the younger side".  A guy who makes sexual comments about his own daughter and a teenage Lindsay Lohan at least cast gazes in that directly.

Finally, it's hard for people not to pick the low hanging fruit.  Epstein got away with his conduct for years.  Trump was a pal.  "Oh Don, why not just take one. . . "

Conclusive proof?  Not at all.  Don has no real friends and Epstein may really have been just another rich and powerful associate.

What's the counter evidence on Trump?

Early on Trump was a big backer on releasing the Epstein files.  That'd be really weird for a guy who might fear he was in them.  His change of mind, therefore, would suggest that something else is operating in his failing brain.

None of the really public accusers has accused Trump of anything.  There are accusers, but they've stayed in the shadows for one reason or another.  Of course, right now, we really don't know who the vast majority of Epstein's clients were, but still, if Trump was one, making releasing the files a policy position in his campaign would be really bizarre.

And, frankly, people make stuff up, including women about rape and sexual misconduct.

If not Trump, then what?

The really remarkable item on all of this is the sudden change.  That strongly suggest that when this administration came in, it learned of a name or names that it really wants to keep secret.

Whoever that might be, it would have to be somebody that Trump really fears having named.  It might be rich and powerful donors to the GOP, or even just one rich and powerful donor.  Whomever that might be, the revealing of that name must be feared as something that would have direct impacts on Trump.

What sort of impacts?  Who knows?  Perhaps just monetarily. But perhaps the name or names is of somebody holding a big sack of beans of some sort that he's waiting to spill.

Rep. Thomas Massie, who is sponsoring a bill to release the files, keeps mentioning the CIA.  Massie knows more than regular member of the public, so that's interesting, if weird.  The CIA does actually dabble in all sorts of icky stuff, so that's not as odd as it might sound.  Compromising sources with honeypots is an old intelligence trick, so if they didn't look into Epstein and using him in some fashion, they were missing a bet.  

We haven't heard all that much about the CIA under Trump, it's worth noting.  Trump is messing with every governmental agency pretty much, but if he is with the CIA, its not really coming much to light.  Anyhow, if the CIA was involved with Epstein somehow, its frankly really hard to see Trump caring about not blowing their cover, especially in a way that's hurting him, unless blowing it is even more damaging to Trump, or if Trump is just afraid of the CIA.  Presidents have in fact been afraid of the CIA, and for all we know the CIA has a file marked "Trump in Moscow" that Trump fears being released.

Anyhow, the CIA thing seems far-fetched.  The rich and powerful make more sense, and beyond that, the rich and powerful reaching out to Trump is some fashion that's going to hurt him personally or politically if things go wrong seems the most likely thing going on here.  Trump may have been pals with Epstein, but that doesn't mean that he knew everyone that Epstein was passing out 14 year olds to.

Will the truth ever come to light?

An interesting thing about all of this is that this fight is going on over information which many wished to have released, which suggests that there is material to release.  If this all involves the CIA, it'd be hard to imagine the files even existing at this point, unless the CIA is keeping them to use.  Given t he corruption of the Trump regime. it's also hard to imagine Trump simply not ordering files destroyed.  All of that suggests that there are files, and that whomever has them keeps a close grip on them for their own reasons.  

That might not continue forever.

Footnotes:

*"I don't think my colleagues are happy about covering up for pedophiles...They're terrified of President Trump's political machine. His legislative affairs folks are reaching out from the White House to every Republican member of congress."

Rep. Thomas Massie.

**The birthday book contains entries from Bill Clinton, Jean Luc Brunel (rapist), Alan Dershowitz, Nick Leese (arms dealer who claimed not to know Epstein), Trump as well as others.  It's packed with sexual references, including multiple ones on young women.  It's pretty clear that those contributing were well aware of Epstein's sexual proclivities, and some of the entries make it pretty clear that some of those who contributed to the book had partaken of his services with what, effectively, were teenage sex slaves.

Related threads:

Cliffnotes of the Zeitgeist, 97th edition. The Epstein Connections.

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