Showing posts with label Wounded Knee. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wounded Knee. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 30, 2025

CliffsNotes of the Zeitgeist, 104th edition. Buy the Big Ugly or we'll shoot this government. An Epstein offer somebody can't refuse. Ignoring Trump's dementia, Not knowing the details, Religious and Cultural appropriation, Why Wounded Knee?

Buy the Big Ugly or we'll shoot this government.

Famous cover of the National Lampoon, used under the Fair Use doctrine to illustrate the Trump regime's tactics on the budget negotiation.  Oddly enough, the dog was actually shot and killed by an unknown person in rural Pennsylvania, where its owner lived.

Headline says it all:
It's a game of chicken.

If this all seems familiar, it's because we went through this once before with under the Trump regime.  Chuck Schumer, in his political dotage, didn't really know what to do, which has characterized his leadership of Senate Democrats since Trump's illegitimacy in general.  The basic hope was that Trump would suddenly start acting semi normal.  Since that time, he's acted more abnormal.

The GOP rails against Democrats being Marxist, Socialist, Communists, Fascist, Monarchist, Muslims most of the time, but now wants them to pay nice on a continuing funding resolution that, they say, will give them seven more weeks to work out a budget.  The last budget, The Big Ugly, is so unpopular that the GOP is working on changing its name.

The risk here is who the public blames the looming government shutdown on. Republicans are already trying to blame the Democrats, even though they refuse to give the concessions the Democrats are seeking.  Trump, whose "art of the deal" style of business tends to be all pressure base, is responding by saying he'll fire Federal workers.

Quite a few members of the populist far right will cheer that, at least up until it impacts them.

Democrats are accusing Trump of acting like a mob boss, and not without reason.  His negotiation style often seems to resemble one.

Somebody is getting an offer they can't refuse.

And speaking of that. . . 


This is a nice look at a grim topic.

Trump isn't supporting releasing the government's files on Jeffrey Epstein as somebody is getting protected, and that somebody is afraid.  We don't know who it is, but that's fairly clearly what's going on.

Somebody close enough to the Oval Office to impact it was screwing underaged girls provided by Epstein.  Maybe it's a collection of somebodies.  Or/and somebody is being blackmailed.

On this, efforts that seem designed to divert attention from this are getting just sillier.


Whoever the somebody is, they're wealthy.  

The Democrats did release a new list of names of people who were pondered as flight passengers to Epstein Island, which included Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Steve Bannon.  Musk has denied every going there, and his denial is likely completely backed up.  It may be the case than none of these individuals went there, or if they did, they didn't do any kiddie diddling.

Still, it's clear that Epstein got rich as a procurer and it's nearly impossible to believe that everyone who went there didn't know something was going on.  Epstein was targeting the rich.  The video claims he was blackmailing them.  Somebody is being protected right now, or perhaps blackmailed.

More and more unsound

Robert Reich posted this item the other day

Having seen dementia up close, I keep wondering the same thing.  Trump is increasingly demented.  

Have you ever been in the house of a demented person?  It's demented.  And that's what's occurring to our entire government right now.

Again: Why isn’t the media reporting on Trump’s growing dementia?

Trump’s increasingly bizarre behavior can no longer be attributed to a calculated “strategy.”

We are on increasingly dangerous territory.  Those on the right largely want to keep claiming that we're just not used to Trump's unconventional management style, which is correct as he's slipping into dementia and we haven't had to contend with that in any fashion since Ronald Reagan, who was demonstrating signs of it in his last term.  Reagan seemed ancient at 77, two years younger than Trump is now, when he left office.

A sign that we're in a dangerous area is the increasingly obvious fact that other people are suddenly really prominent in a way that they were not before. Steven Miller is an example. Miller is impossible to like but he's now very much in the forefront.  J. D. Vance has reemerged quite a bit as well.

Some have asserted that in Reagan's decline Nancy Reagan took over some of his roles behind the scenes.  This definitely happened when Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and Edith stepped up to the plate.  As Franklin Roosevelt declined nothing like that happened, but then he didn't have mental lapses.  

We can be rest assured that Melania isn't going to step in.  The question is who is, and what are they doing right now.

Stake Center Shooting

We've become so acclimated to bizarre murders that it seems the news on the LDS Stake Center shooting in Grand Blanc, Michigan, has already cycled.  Maybe it should have, as stories like this are local stories.

While we really ought not to notice it, we'll go ahead and note anyhow that in stories involving the LDS the Press, and politicians,  clearly shows it knows nearly nothing about them.  Almost all the Press reported the attack as being on a church, which isn't the way the Mormons characterize this, the most common variety of their religious structures.  That probably doesn't matter but it'd be sort of like calling a synagogue or a mosque a church.

Some politicians were quick to claim it demonstrated increasing violence against Christians, which they've wanted to claim about the Kirk assassination as well.  Trump, for instance, stated ""yet another targeted attack on Christians in the United States of America".  Kirk seems to have been murdered because he spoke against transgenderism, not for an expressed religious position, but I suppose you could argue that his opposition to transgenderism was based on his faith, although that would be a rather underdeveloped argument.

The thing is, at least right now, is that we seem to have no idea whatsoever why this guy attacked the Grand Blanc stake center.  Mormons actually are not regarded as Christians by at least Apostolic Christians, who are the first and original Christians, as their theology doesn't support it.  Mormons do assert they're Christians, but they certainly do not believe in a Trinitarian God like Christians do.  Indeed, their belief is so significantly different that an informed Christian really can't regard them as Christians, which doesn't have much to do with how they view themselves.

Anyhow, if the location was picked out more or less at random, well then it might have been targeting Christians.  Or it might be an act targeted specifically at Mormons for some reason.  Or this guy may just have been flat out insane.

As an aside, however, it's interesting to note the degree to which outside of the West, and more particularly outside of the Jello Belt, most people sort of assume that the LDS are sort of just very clean dressing Protestants or something.  This isn't casting aspersions, but it reminds me of the occasionally questions I'll hear directed as Jews by really ill informed Americans which assumes that Judaism is basically a Christian religion.

And the speculating probably ought to cease until we have an idea about what was going on, which might never occur.

The first storm


The first of the storms we wrote about on Sunday will hit Quantico today. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth will address the flag officers.

Reporting so far is that Hegseth is just going to deliver a pep talk, in which case this is the most expensive example of boring people for no reason in the history of mankind.  I continue to suspect that more than that will occur.

Probably not what Hegseth will sound like later today.

We want our symbols back, dude.

Speaking of the wannabe War Secretary, we've noted here before that Hegseth is all tatted up.  Indeed, we noted that in an earlier version of this trailing thread, in which we stated:














We also very recently had an article on Christian Dominionism.

Because of that I'll note use of these symbols by far right Evangelicals, and frankly Protestants in general, is cultural appropriation.  If you dig what these convey, look into what the originally conveyed and study up.  You won't remain in the New Apostolic Reformation camp for long.

Persistent cultural appropriation.

Bai-De-Schluch-A-Ichin or Be-Ich-Schluck-Ich-In-Et-Tzuzzigi (Slender Silversmith) "Metal Beater," Navajo silversmith, photo by George Ben Wittick, 1883

While I'm at it, I'll note that there's a politician I'm aware of who consistently angles for the Navajo jewelry look.

I guess that's the person's look, its just so persistent, black clothing with turquoise jewelry, that it's hard not to notice.  Perhaps its meant to look Western, which if that's the case, it sort of does, but it looks Southwestern.  And a person in this era needs to be, or should be, careful about that as the gulf between the regions Republican politics and Reservation views is growing a great deal.  

Indeed, I've been wondering if we'll see Lynette Gray Bull run again for office locally.  My prediction is that if she does, Harriet Hageman will not debate her.

My further prediction is that if Hageman is challenged from the center of her party, which is admittedly on the decline, she'll suffer a whopping defeat.

Remember Wounded Knee


Finally, Wounded Knee has certainly been back in the news, thanks to Hegseth.

What's going on here anyhow?  It seems like an effort to turn back the clock in a way, but to what point on the dial?  1915?  1945?  1955?

Finally, some really important news.

Blackpink member member Lisa went to the Louis Viton fashion show in Paris.

Why can't se  have Congress people who look like Lisa from Blackpink?  Shoot, if we're aiming for cultural appropriation, given Kawaii a chance.

And Bad Bunny will sing at the Stupor Bowl.

I'm sure I will not watch that, but a coworker of mine loves Bad Bunny.  I don't know why he's a bad bunny, and I'm not particularly inclined to find out, but I guess the Hispanic singer has been avoiding the mainland US due to the Sturmabteilung so it's a big deal to his fans.

Postscript:

Watching Patton one too many times.
Behind the stage on which Hegseth and Trump were expected to speak was a large American flag, with banners showing the words "strength, service, America" and the various flags of the armed services on either side.

Oh geez, now Donald Babbler is making an appearance and the stage is seemingly decked out like the opener of the movie Patton. 

This just piles absurdity upon absurdity.

My prediction is the Trump speech will sound something like this:

And Hegseth's?  It'll be rah rah, but when it falls flat, the next speech will be:

On a matter of serious concern, however, this is extraordinarily weird, but then much of what this administration does is extraordinarily weird.  Still there's a little reason to worry that this regime is concerned that the military's senior leaders are not going to endlessly back illegality.

I have to wonder what it's like to get a rah rah speech from a guy who, when his country was calling, when to the doctor's office.  Oh well.

More Kirk

I meant to put this up above, but I thought this interesting:


Because I paid so little attention to Kirk when he was alive, I still don't know what to make of the post mortems

Fr. Joseph Krupp, whose podcast and blog I follow, was a Kirk fan and had an interesting episode on him.  He stated that Kirk was basically a middle of the road Republican by most measures up until our current times, when middle of the road, in his view, is regarded as right wing extreme.  I'd agree that Kirk's views on things like transgenderism are in fact pretty average, up until quite recently.

Having said that, I also heard Kirk say that somebody should raise the bail money to bail out the person who attack Nancy Pelosi's husband, back after he was attacked. That's a flat out evil thing to say.

At any rate, I really think Cardinal Dolan let things carry him away.  Kirk a modern day St. Paul?  I don't think so.  I suppose Cardinal Dolan meant that Kirk was killed for saying things that are true but unpopular, but St. Paul never excused violence.

As noted here the other day, I think that Catholics have to be really careful about embracing figures from the Evangelical right, which Kirk was.  Kirk was headed into Catholicism pretty clearly, but hadn't yet made it there.  Assuming he was a Catholic figure may be assuming too much and embracing Dominionism is assuming too much.

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A look at the later lives of Wounded Knees' Twenty Medal of Honor recipients.

Wounded Knee, the Massacre, has been back in the news this past week due to wannabe "War" Secretary Hegseth determining that the review of the Medals of Honor awarded for action there is over, and the now long dead soldiers will keep their medals.  We posted on that here:

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But, what happened to the Medal of Honor recipients from Wounded Knee?  

Most thinking people recall the incident with horror, inkling, frankly towards a genocidal view of the massacre, and not without good reason.  But at the time, the Army honored those who participated in the battle at an unprecedented rate.

What became of them?

Let's take a look.

  • Sergeant William Austin, cavalry, directed fire at Indians in ravine at Wounded Knee

William Austin has the unusual distinction of having been born in Texas (Galveston) but having entered the service in New York City.

Austin left the Army in 1892 to enter the cotton business.  He served again in the Georgia National Guard during the Philippine Insurrection, and then returned to civilian life and ultimately had an automobile dealership.  He served again as a Reserve Quartermaster during World War One.  He was married three times.  His first marriage to an actress ended in divorce, and he outlived his second wife.

He lived in California in his later years and died in Palo Alto in 1929 at age 61 by which time he looked quite old by modern standards.  All in all, he had lead a pretty successful life.

  • Private Mosheim Feaster, cavalry, extraordinary gallantry at Wounded Knee;

Feaster was a career soldier who served until 1914, having served at some point as a lieutenant..  He died in 1950 at age 82.

Oddly, for a very long serving soldier who was commissioned at some point, finding details on him is next to impossible.

Or perhaps it's not so odd.  His commission was probably a wartime one, and he was a career enlisted man otherwise.

He was born in Pennsylvania, and died in California.

  • Private Mathew Hamilton, cavalry, bravery in action at Wounded Knee;
Hamilton was a Scottish immigrant and was 25 years old at the time of Wounded Knee.  He had not, like many Irish immigrants, immediately joined the Army upon arriving in the United States.  He also wouldn't make a career out of the Army, leaving it, as a Sergeant, in 1899, having served in the Spanish American War.  He took his discharge from the Army while in Cuba, and then went to work as a packer contracter to the Army in Cuba.

His ultimate fate is unknown.

  • Private Joshua B. Hartzog, artillery, rescuing commanding officer who was wounded and carried him out of range of hostile guns at Wounded Knee;
Hartzog rose to the rank of sergeant but did not remain in the Army.  Following his time in the Army, he returned to his native Ohio and married in 1894.  He moved to Alabama with his wife thereafter, but his wife soon died.  He remarried in 1918, but divorced and remarried again in 1923.  He died in 1939.
  • Private Marvin Hillock, cavalry, distinguished bravery at Wounded Knee;
Hillock was born in Michigan to an Irish American family (his father was a Canadian).  He left the Army soon after Wounded Knee and became a miner in Lead, South Dakota.  He contracted sort of a shotgun marriage soon thereafter but it did not last long, although that may have meant that his spouse died.  He married again, albeit unsuccessfully, and seems to have relocated to Ontario for a time and then disappeared.
  • Sergeant Bernhard Jetter, cavalry, distinguished bravery at Wounded Knee for "killing an Indian who was in the act of killing a wounded man of B Troop."
Bernhard Jetter was born in the Kingdom of Württemberg and first joined the Army in 1883.  He left the Army in 1896 with a "special" discharge, probably indicating a service disability, and married for a second time in 1916.  Nothing is known of his first wife, other than that she had died.  He moved to Brooklyn and died at age 65.
  • Sergeant George Loyd, cavalry, bravery, especially after having been severely wounded through the lung at Wounded Knee;
Loyd was Irish born and joined the Army in 1866, the year after the Civil War at which point there was a huge turnover in the Army.  He had been at the Battle of Little Big Horn.

He killed himself, while still a serving soldier, at Ft. Riley in 1892, at which time the 49 year old Loyd was regarded as an old soldier.


  • Sergeant Albert McMillain, cavalry, while engaged with Indians concealed in a ravine, he assisted the men on the skirmish line, directed their fire, encouraged them by example, and used every effort to dislodge the enemy at Wounded Knee;
McMillian is very unusual in that he was a school teacher, the son of a U.S. Senator, and had attended Princeton prior to his enlistment in the U.S. Army.  He seems to have been what some would refer to as a soldier of fortune.  He was court-martialed for using vile language towards a woman in 1892, and left the Army at the end of his enlistment.  He moved to  St. Paul, Minnesota and entered the University of Minnesota where he earned a Bachelor of Law degree in 1894, that being a "law degree" before reformist elements in the law converted the basic degree to a doctorate.  He worked for West Publishing Company, the premier legal publisher even today, thereafter as an editor.  He suffered a nervous breakdown at that time and his fortunes declined thereafter.

McMillian was likely a sensitive man, and he's  a 19th and early 20th Century example of PTSD.  He likely couldn't overcome what he'd witnesses, and had been awarded a medal for, at Wounded Knee.  He served as a Red Cross driver in World War One.

After Wounded Knee he requested that he be reduced to the rank of Private.  His request was refused.
  • Private Thomas Sullivan, cavalry, conspicuous bravery in action against Indians concealed in a ravine at Wounded Knee;
Sullivan was an Irish immigrant who moved to the US at age 28 and immediately entered the Army.  He made a career of the Army and retired as a First Sergeant after 23 years of service, which would indicate that he likely retired early due to medical reasons.  He served in the Spanish American WAr and the Philippine Insurrection.

Sullivan married after he left the service and took up various employments, including policemen.  His wife Ellen was also an Irish immigrant.  He died in 1940 at age 80.
  • First Sergeant Jacob Trautman, cavalry, killed a hostile Indian at close quarters, and, although entitled to retirement from service, remained to close of the campaign at Wounded Knee;
Trautman was a German born Civil War veteran who retired from the Army in 1891.  He died in 1898 of a stroke at age 58 while living in Pennsylvania, which is where he had originally entered the service from, first serving in a Pennsylvania cavalry unit.

Information on Trautman is hard to find, but an interesting aspect of this is that his first and last name are most commonly associated with people of the Jewish faith.  That doesn't mean he was Jewish, but a person has to wonder.
  • Sergeant James Ward, cavalry, continued to fight after being severely wounded at Wounded Knee;
Ward was a first generation American from an Irish family in Quincy, Massachusetts.  He was the second of seven children.  He left a bricklaying job to join the Arm in 1876 and had been first stationed at Ft. Laramie.  His last enlistment, the one he was on during Wounded Knee, was short, indicating that he was discharged for medical reasons.  He married after he left the service but his health continued to decline leading first to his paralysis, and then death in 1901.


  • Corporal William Wilson, cavalry, bravery in Sioux Campaign, 1890;
Cpl Wilson is particularly unusual as he was black.  He was known as a marksman and for wearing a non regulation black leather coat and a broad brimmed hat.  He is the only black soldier to have won the Medal of Honor at Wounded Knee and the last black soldier to win it on American soil.

He deserted the Army in 1893, with  his rifle, after being detailed to a rifle match.  Desertion wasn't that big of deal at the time, and he returned to Maryland, where he married and had seven children.  He died in 1928 at the age of 58.

Desertion in the 19th Century Army was extremely common, although taking your firearms was regarded as bad form.
  • Private Hermann Ziegner, cavalry, conspicuous bravery at Wounded Knee;
Ziegner was born to Hugo and Lena Ziegner in Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach and emigrated to the United States when he was 14 years old.  He enlisted in the Army in 1889. He left the Army after eight years of service and married, but served again in the Spanish American War where he was a sergeant and later the first sergeant of Company E, 71st New York Infantry. He went up San Juan Hill in the famous charge.  He died of service induced malaria in 1898 at age 34, his family being reduced to poverty as he suffered through it.

Whatever his service at Wounded Knee entailed, his service in Cuba was clear, and he, and his family, suffered for it.  Curiously, his tombstone notes only his service in the Indian Wars and his rank, at the time, of private.
  • Musician John Clancy, artillery, twice voluntarily rescued wounded comrades under fire of the enemy.
Clancy is hard to find dentils on.  He was a New Yorker who joined the Army at aged 19 and he left the Army in 1894.  He died, oddly enough, at the home of the cavalry, Ft. Riley, in 1934 at age 64.

  • Lieutenant Ernest Garlington, cavalry, distinguished gallantry;
Garlington was a West Point graduate who received accelerated advancement, at a time in which Army appointments were very much by regiment, due to the losses at Little Big Horn.  He served as inspector general in Cuba during the Spanish–American War and participated in the Battle of Santiago de Cuba, obtaining the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.  He was retired from the Army as a General in 1917 due to age.  He died in 1934 at age 81.


  • First Lieutenant John Chowning Gresham, cavalry, voluntarily led a party into a ravine to dislodge Sioux Indians concealed therein. He was wounded during this action.
Gresham was a career soldier who retired as a Colonel in 1915, and then had a position in the California National Guard during World War One as a ROTC instructor.  He died in 1926 at age 74.


  • Second Lieutenant Harry Hawthorne, artillery, distinguished conduct in battle with hostile Indians;
Hawthorne is perhaps the most eccentric of the Wounded Knee MoH winners as he was a Naval Academy graduate who after a brief hitch in the Navy, transferred to the Army.  He served in the Spanish American War and was the military attache to Japan from 1909 to 1911.  During World War One he served as the  Inspector General in the Panama Canal Zone and was awarded the Purple Heart (oddly) and a Silver Star. He retired as a Colonel in 1919 after World War One and died in 1948 at age 88.


  • Private George Hobday, cavalry, conspicuous and gallant conduct in battle;
Hobday was an English immigrant who enlisted in the Army in 1868 and at the time of Wounded Knee was a very old soldier, being 48 years of age.  He died of pneumonia in 1891 while still a serving soldier.

  • First Sergeant Frederick Toy, cavalry, bravery; 
Toy was a career soldier with an exemplary service record.  He served as an orderly to President Theodore Roosevelt and was recalled from retirement as a training officer during World War One.  He died in 1933 at age 67.


  • Corporal Paul Weinert, artillery, taking the place of his commanding officer who had fallen severely wounded, he gallantly served his piece, after each fire advancing it to a better position
We know know that this fire may have resulted in many innocent deaths, including that of women and children.  Weinert probably knew that at the the time and stated upon being informed that he'd be awarded the Medal of Honor that he had expected to be court-martialed..

Weinert was a German from Frankfurt, he served two hitches in the Army, the second one during the  Spanish American War.  He died in 1919, at age 49.

So what can we draw from all of this?

Well, perhaps not much, but we can glean some interesting facts and make a few conclusions.

One thing is, and we'll start with the Weinert comment, at least some soldiers appreciated right at the time that the battle had turned into a massacre.  Weinert's comments showed that he appreciated that the "battle" had taken unnecessary lives and had descended into a massacre.  McMillain's request to be returned to the grade of private says something similar, as does his difficulties in life thereafter.

Not all of the soldiers, however, seem to have been bothered by what they experienced, which in spite of our modern assumptions to the contrary, if fairly common, and franky disturbing.  We'd like to think that we'd appreciate the horror of a thing right from the onset of it, but many people frankly don't.

The number of career soldiers who won the MoH is surprising. That is, it's surprising so many of them were career men.  Most soldiers in the Army have always been sort of passing through, but many of these troops were not and stayed in for as long as they could.

That might partially be because so many of these men were immigrants, eight out of the twenty, and several more were first generation Americans.  The Army had been a haven for immigrants, and in particular Irish and German immigrants.  These awards show that.

Some disappeared.  It'd be difficult for a Medal of Honor recipient to do that today, but as we've noted, the Medal of Honor was not as rare then, as it is now, being the only medal the U.S. awarded.

We'd like to think the men were haunted by their roles in what is now widely regarded as an atrocity.  But, most don't seem to have been.  The number who left the service and then returned for later wars suggests that they retained either a loyalty or some sense of fondness for military life, in spite of the horrors they'd participated in.  Only McMillain seems to have been the exception.