"A friend of mine…he’s got a big career set up”
Ostensibly exploring the practice of law before the internet. Heck, before good highways for that matter.
Monday, December 23, 2024
Thursday, October 3, 2024
Friday, October 3, 1924. Insulting Kennesaw Mountain.
A conference between the United Kingdom and Egypt on Egyptian independence ended without success.
The New York Giants scandal resulted in American League president Ben Johnson, upset over an inadequate investigation in his view, calling Kenesaw Mountain Landis a "wild-eyed, crazy nut".
Tuesday, October 1, 2024
Wednesday, October 1, 1924. Jimmy Carter born, William B. Ross starts to pass.
Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States, and the only President to live to age 100, was born in Plains Georgia.
Widely admired personally, he was not a terribly successful President and served one term.
Governor Ross was dying.
Ireland's Defence Forces (Óglaigh na hÉireann) were formed by the unification of the Irish Army, the Irish Naval Service, the Irish Air Corps and the Reserve Defence Forces,'
Baseball Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis banned New York Giants player Jimmy O'Connell and coach Cozy Dolan due to a bribery scandal.
From Michaelnoir on Reddit's 100 Years Ago today:
Last edition:
Tuesday, September 30, 1924. Big Train boards the Train, and the condition of Governor Ross.
Friday, March 1, 2024
Saturday, March 1, 1924. The Nixon Nitration Works Disaster.
The Nixon Nitration Works disaster occured in which an explosion of ammonium nitrate killed at least 18 people, destroyed several miles of New Jersey factories, and demolished Nixon, New Jersey.
While a very famous industrial disaster, the Nixon Nitration Works and Nixon New Jersey are remembered now principally for being mentioned in Band of Brothers as Cpt. Lewis Nixon III, a major character Ambrose's depiction of the 506 Parachute Infantry Regiment, mentions it. Lewis Nixon was in fact a member of the family that owned the plant, and it was the case that Richard Winters, his close friend and for most of his service in Europe his superior, worked there for a time after the war.
The Nixon's were troubled in general, and Lewis Nixon III was no exception. His marriage contracted just after the start of the war failed during it, as did a subsequent one. A third marriage to Grace Umezawa, formerly a Japanese internee, was successful. She helped him overcome the alcoholism depicted during the series.
The KDP, the Communist Part of Germany, was reinstated. The KDP, together with the NADSP, the Nazi Party, would figure enormously in the destruction of German democracy as the extremes grew increasingly powerful in the remaining years of the Weimar Republic.
Alice's Day at Sea, the first of 57 Alice comedies produced by Walt Disney, appeared. They were short films meant to be shown before the feature, something at one time common.
White rats paraded in San Pedro, California.
Not a hack, but on this day, an Irish Traveler feeding his pony on this day in 1924.
Locally, a story didn't add up.
A 20-year-old marrying a 15-year-old?
And she was in 6th Grade?
Wednesday, January 24, 2024
Thursday, January 24, 1924. Different reactions to the use of power.
Oilman Edward L. Doheny testified that he had loaned Senator Albert B. Fall $100,000, when Fall was Secretary of the Interior under Harding, breaking open the Teapot Dome Scandal.
Thursday, April 27, 2023
Friday, April 27, 1973. The removal of the Chagossians. Fall of Patrick Gray.
The United Kingdom concluded the forced expulsion of the Chagossians from the Chagos Archipelago.
The extremely remote mid-ocean Indian Ocean islands were originally uninhabited, but came to have a population when under French administration. The original population was enslaved, and brought by the French from Madagascar and other African locations. They were emancipated in 1840, the islands having belonged to the United Kingdom since 1814. They were employed as workers on coconut plantations, that being the primary economy of the islands.
The British depopulation campaign was undertaken for the United States, which sought to use the islands for military purposes. The best known of the islands is Diego Garcia, which remains a U.S. Naval installation.
L. Patrick Gray resigned as Interim Director of the FBI after it was revealed he destroyed materials removed from E. Howard Hunt's safe. He spent the next seven years providing testimony regarding Watergate.
Gray was a 1940 Naval Academy graduate who attended law school while still in the Navy. His naval career was distinguished, and he was discouraged from leaving the service when he did in 1960, meaning that at that time he'd had a twenty-year Naval career.
He was a recent appointee to the FBI when the Watergate scandal broke out. Initially he was heavily involved in the investigation and pursued it vigorously. When it became clear the administration was involved, he turned the matter over to his deputy, Mark Felt, who later turned out to be the famous leaker to the press, "Deep Throat".
According to Gray, who does seem to have had no involvement with the Watergate conspiracy or its cover up, the papers he removed were told to him to be of national security significant. Prior to destroying them, he examined them, and later stated that one set of papers were "false" secret cables indicating that the Kennedy Administration was involved with the Diem assassination and the second set papers written by Kennedy about his "peccadilloes".
Wednesday, February 15, 2023
Thursday, February 15, 1923. Forbes quits from long distance, Veterans gather, Greece compounds the injustice.
Charles R. Forbes, the Director of the U.S. Veteran's Bureau, resigned the position from his self-appointed refuge of Europe, following suspicions that he had been selling surplus supplies at huge discounts to contractors for kickbacks. His confrontation with Harding on the matter had resulted in a physical altercation, with Forbes reportedly begging Harding to be allowed to depart for Europe prior to resigning.
The Scottish born Forbes had lived a colorful life, having been a Marine Corps musician at age 16, an engineer, a soldier in the Army charged with desertion and ultimately discharged as a Sergeant First Class after only eight years of service, employed in the construction field, and a Lieutenant Colonel in World War One.
He'd be prosecuted for conspiracy to defraud the Federal Government and end up serving 20 months in prison. He'd live until 1949, dying at age 74.
Greece expropriate additional dwellings from the Albanian Cham Muslims in order to free up dwelling space for expelled Greeks from Turkey, thereby compounding the injustice.
Albanians had nothing to do with Greece's situation and the event signals out how Greece, in some ways, set the table for the disaster it was experiencing. Turkey was being barbarous to the Anatolian Greeks, but the Greeks had not been kind to the Anatolian Muslims.
And this also demonstrates how something that began in World War One with good intention, independent nation states comprised of free peoples, was morphing into expelling minorities from lands they'd occupied for eons.
Monday, January 16, 2023
Tuesday, January 16, 1923: Work on cattle ranch, Z/T Ranch, Pitchfork, Wyoming
Tuesday, December 20, 2022
Wednesday, December 20, 1922. Rises and falls.
Sir Percy Cox, British Administrator for the Iraqi Mandate, agreed to a joint Anglo Iraqi declaration to create ea government for the Kurds provided that rival Kurdish leaders could agree on a constitution for the state, and to its borders.
Sheikh Mahmud Barzanji, who had appointed by Cox as the governor or southern Kurdistan, refused to go along with it and allied himself with the Turks against the British, destroying the opportunity for an independent Kurdistan. He is regarded to this day as a hero in Kurdistan, but it can't help but be noted that his obstinacy may have frustrated Kurdish aspirations, perhaps permanently.
William Hays lifted the ban against Roscoe Arbuckle in the movie industry.
Poland appointed Stanislaw Wojciechowski as President of the republic.
Thursday, September 29, 2022
Tuesday, September 29, 1942. The British launch Operation Braganza, and the Japanese try again in Oregon.
The British launched Operation Braganza with the goal of capturing the ground around Deir el Munassib in Egypt. It would fail.
The Japanese tried again with a second submarine launched seaplane bombing mission against the forest in Oregon, hoping to set them on fire. They did not.
The great comedic actress Madeline Kahn was born in Boston, Massachusetts.
Lahn was born to Bernard and Freda Wolfson, who divorced when she was two. Her mother later married Hiller Kahn who adopted her. Her mother had wanted to be an actress and for a time pursued that goal. Kahn graduated in 1964 with a degree in speech therapy from Hofra University and began purusing an actiing career herself soon after.
Starting with roles on Broadway, she broke into film in 1968 and by 1972 was in the major motion picture, What's Up Doc?, which I've never seen. The following year, she was in Paper Moon, which is a great film, for which she secured an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. She was in a series of notable roles after that. In the 1990s she was in the television series Cosby, which was hugely respected, but which is now probably un-airable due to the later revelations about Bill Cosby. She died in 1999 of ovarian cancer at age 57.
Thursday, July 7, 2022
Cliffnotes of the Zeitgeist Part XXXV. Griner and Russian Law, Senseless Destruction, No. 10 Cat to get new Roommate, Russia threats on Alaska, Where's the followup?
Don't be stupid out there
Senseless Destruction.
Somebody blew up the Georgia Guidestones.
For those who are not familiar with them, there's a really good episode of Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World about them, identifying the builder and why he did it. For a really brief synopsis, based on memory, a physician who lived in another state built them out of concern that things were going down the tubes and giving his own personal guidance and thoughts on how to avoid going down the tubes in the future.
Frankly, they were very 1970ish.
Why would somebody blow them up?
Apparently, some people believed they were evil, which is silly.
Regarding guidestones, with all the crap going on in the US right now, the builders thoughts probably wouldn't be altered if he were around right now.
Boris Johnson falls.
Americans tend to be so self focused on their own politics, which are distressingly weird right now, that they miss the politics of other nations. On top of it, the American press is phenomenally bad on reporting political events in other nations. Added to that, the press of the subject nations tends to be no better, so you are only left with the suggestion that he did something horrible, with nobody ever telling you what it was. An article in the Guardian, for example, calls him the worst leader the Tories every had, but won't say why.
Canadian changes of power, by the way, are completely that way. It's like the entire topic of the election is a big secret.
Anyhow, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has resigned. He will briefly remain Prime Minister until his replacement is chosen.
Usually this happens following an election with the party in control loses. This, however, was due to an internal revolt in the Conservative Party.
Apparently a lot of this has to do with "Partygate", a scandal in which parties were held at No. 10 Downing Street (as if they were going to be able to keep that secret) which violated COVID restrictions in the UK.
I guess it says something in favor of the British that this would bring a Prime Minister down, whereas in the United States a sitting President would attempt to illegally retain power and nothing happen to him.
Russia threatens Alaska.
One of the Russian strategies to deal with its pathetic performance in Ukraine is to threaten everyone else. Now it is threatening the United States, stating it might fight us to take Alaska back.
Seriously?
Usually, bullies have to win to be credible.
And now. . . ?
I'm not going to bother to name names, but there is a politician in Congress who came on Twitter nearly daily to blame Biden for rising gasoline prices.
Now gas prices have fallen for eight days straight. So is he going on and giving credit?
Yeah. . . right.
Sunday, September 5, 2021
Labor Day, September 5, 1921. The Wages Of Sin
On this day in 1921 one of the most infamous, most misreported, and one of the most still most mysterious deaths in Hollywood history occurred. And one that features all the things that still cause Hollywood to fascinate and repel.
The death of young actress Virginia Rappe.
Even though the critical events in the death of Rappe, then age 26, occurred at a party, where lot of people were around, what really occurred leading to her untimely death remains a mystery. From what seems to be clear, we can tell the following.
Rappe was a guest at a party hosted by Fred Fischbach, a friend of celebrated silent movie comedian Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle. The party was partially in celebration of a hit Arbuckle movie, Crazy To Marry. The five reel movie was a recent release and doing well, although it is now obscure and may be in the category of lost film (I'm not sure of that). At the time, Arbuckle was making $1,000,000 a year from films, a gigantic sum not only now, for most people, but particularly then, given the respective value of a dollar compared to now. Arbuckle, we'd note, was married, with his spouse at the time being Minta Durfee, although the couple had recently separated. In spite of that, it should be further noted, Durfee would call Arbuckle in later years the most generous man she'd ever met, and that in spite of their 1925 divorce, if given the choice, she'd do it all again.
Fischback rented three hotel rooms, and, in the spirit of the times, supplied them with large quantifies of bootleg booze. Rappe was an invited guest, and arrived with Bambina Maude. At the party Rappe drank a lot of alcohol. At some point in the party it seems that he and Rappe went into room 1219 of the hotel alone, and shortly thereafter some sort of commotion occurred, Arbuckle emerged and Rappe was desperately sick. She was taken to the hospital and died four days later from a ruptured bladder and peritonitis.
Arbuckle was arrested and accused of rape and manslaughter, with an essential element of the accusation being that forced sex had caused Rappe's death.
Seems, at first blush, clear enough, but it gets very confused from there.
Arbuckle maintained his innocence throughout. He was tried three times, resulting in two mistrials, and then an acquittal. Bambina Maude was a witness in the story, filling in lurid details, but she was later revealed to be a procurer who used that role to blackmail recipients of the favors she'd arranged to supply, although there was no evidence that she was acting as a procurer at the time of the attendance at the party. Indeed, while there are multiple stories as to what occured, one of the versions that exists is that the room that Rappe went into was the only one with a bathroom and she went into it to throw up, going through the bedroom where Maude was having sex with a movie director. In that version, which isn't the only one, Arbuckle went in the room to carry the collapsed Rappe out. [1].
The final jury apologized to Arbuckle for what he'd been through. And, indeed, it seems fairly clear that whatever occurred between Arbuckle and Rappe, it wasn't that which resulted in her death, but rather a chronic medical condition that was exacerbated by alcohol. It's likely her drinking at the party, which killed her.
On the same day, elsewhere, the League of Nations convened for the second time and admitted Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Finland and Luxembourg.
Footnotes:
1 Yet another version, upon which a book was written asserts that Rappe had received botched abortion that had nicked her bladder, and it ruptured when she tickled Arbuckle and he accidentally kneed her.
Others criticize that assertion, which would by definition be based on a large element of speculation. It seems based on Rappe having reported received something like five prior abortions in an era when they were all fully illegal.
Saturday, June 26, 2021
The 2022 Election, Part III. Everyone throws their hat in the ring.
Well, it's pretty clearly now the case that absolutely everyone who hopes to be in politics or has dreamed of it, and who is to the right of Liz Cheney, is now set to run against her.
I last reported on this on May 2014. Since then, there's been new entrants. Here's the current list, with new additions, and slight changes:
Of note this is just the Republican field. No Democrats have filed yet. Some will.
Liz Cheney. You know who she is, of course. She's the incumbent and probable nominee, in spite of the heavy rightward leaning slate of candidates against her.
Robin Belinsky: Belinsky is a business woman from Sheridan who is billing herself as Wyoming's Marjorie Taylor Greene and therefore predictably endorses the Trump's narrative that the 2020 Presidential election was stolen.
Greene is among the most disturbing of the Congressional Trump backers, so not only does Belinsky make a strong contrast to Cheney, it's one that isn't likely to get very far.
Anthony Bouchard: Bouchard is a member of the legislature from Goshen County who has been in a lot of local political spats and who is a far right firebrand in the legislature. He originally came into the public eye through a firearms organization he's central to. He was also the first well known candidate to announce against Cheney.
Bouchard is firmly in the Trump camp and appeared, with Chuck Gray, at the Matt Gaetz rally against Cheney. Bouchard is well known due to his prior political activities and therefore is likely to make it to at least the primary, which many in this crowded field will not.
Chuck Gray: Gray is a hard right member of the legislature whose first appearance in the Wyoming political scene was an unsuccessful run at the seat he now occupies in the House. He was appointed to that seat upon his predecessor's death and is a Natrona County radio personality.
Gray and Bouchard will be competing for essentially the same demographic and in some ways have analogous political careers after having obtained office. When this occurs, it tends to result in a regional contest, with supporters from various regions supporting their local candidate. That disfavors Gray as candidates from Casper are rarely supported by the rest of the state, although a lot of the state isn't that keen on Cheyenne either. In any event, if Gray and Bouchard stay in through the end of the primary, which they are likely to, they'll soak up a lot of the support base for each other.
Bryan Eugene Keller: He's a resident of Laramie County who has registered but I don't know anything else about him. A Google search didn't turn up much either. It's likely safe to say that Keller, absent something really surprising, will draw very few votes in the race.
Denton Knapp: Knapp is a retired U.S. Army Colonel and a current Brig. Gen. in the California National Guard. He's from Gillette originally and claims to be generally fond of the Cheney and to respect her past role in Congress.
Knapp received a lot of press for his announcement yesterday, but almost all of it boils down to "Retired Army Colonel. . . " which won't get him far. In the last Senate Race one candidate was prominently noted to be a retired Air Force officer and that didn't take him anywhere. Truth be known, while the country remains in a post war hagiographic era regarding veterans, a lot of that has become shallow acknowledgement and his long career in the service isn't likely to get him very far and may even hurt him in nativist Wyoming. Gone for thirty years? Brig Gen of the California National Guard? He'll have to come up with a lot more than that.
Knapp is presently a Californian, living in Orange County, and will have to reestablish residency in Wyoming. This will also hurt him. After a thirty year absence and then a relocation to Wyoming, coming back just to run for Congress won't be well received. In fact, it wasn't well received when Liz Cheney did that, which is why in her first race she took fewer votes than her two combined opponents in the primary.
Bryan Miller: Miller is a retired USAF lieutenant colonel who has twice run for Senate and lost. Now he's trying the House against a candidate who is presumed to be embattled.
Miller is a strong Trump supporter and supports Trump's false claims that the election was stolen.
Miller's association with Trump's false claims makes him somewhat distinct from the other retired military officer running this election, Knapp. There's something disturbing, beyond what is otherwise disturbing, about a military man supporting Trump's attempts to subvert the election. My prediction is that Miller's campaign won't go far although he'll stay in until the end of the primary as he seems to have a very strong desire to be elected to office and there has become a perennial candidate.
Marissa Selvig: Mayor of Pavilion. Selvig announced early and has a website, but has received very little attention thereafter. She's disadvantaged to a degree as Bouchard and Gray have a bigger audience by default.
Selvig interestingly focuses on her dedication to the constitution, which she holds is the "second" most important document in the American system, the first being the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Independence is a single purpose document with no post declaration legal import, so that's an unusual position. Otherwise, her stated positions are conventional typical local Republican.
Selvig's campaign is unlikely to gain steam anywhere. Her stated positions don't really serve to distinguish her from Cheney, and if she was to distinguish herself by going in the now trendy rightward direction, she'd be indistinguishable from Bouchard and Gray.
Darin Smith: Smith is a businessman and lawyer in Cheyenne, according to the information he's put out. He was the campaign manager for the failed Foster Freiss Gubernatorial run and his views reflect that. Freiss is a backer of his. That fact probably gives Smith a spending advantage over other candidates trying to unseat Cheney. He stands out in that he's less fanatic in his endorsement of the Trump election stolen myth while still endorsing it in a lukewarm fashion.
Smith's stated positions on his campaign site by and large are typical for the Wyoming GOP including the insistence that "we" need to get coal back on the market. The problem with some of those positions is that they fail to acknowledge trends that have now passed a certain jump the shark level. Coal was declining, for example, under Trump. Regarding Trump, Smith's campaign site has the "Take America Back" phrase on the first page, which is really slang for "I believe the election was stolen" to some ears, whether Smith means that or not.
Smith joins Cheney in being a lawyer, which none of the other candidates are, which means that he knows that a lot of the pro Trump rhetoric that's grounded in the Constitution and what not is legally baseless and he should know its factually baseless as well. It'll be interesting to see if he, like Knapp, attempts to nuance his position on the 2020 election.
The thing that uniformly distinguishes all of these candidates from Cheney, except perhaps for Selvig and Keller, the latter of whom is a mystery, is that they're all backing Trump to some degree, with Knapp the less enthusiastic about it. Indeed the irony of this race is that Cheney's stance has brought her a fair amount of support from rank and file Wyomingites while also bringing her the ire of the county parties. Her original weakness was that she wasn't from here, which was a strike against her the first time she ran. In that race, the two main opponents split the vote and she took office. Since then she's risen in Congress and as a result of her stance, has risen in admiration in the eyes of a lot of people who were lukewarm about her before. She's almost certain to win this race.
Other races? Well, there is one that has a competition, sort of, right now, and that's the Governor's Race.
Mark Gordon: Gordon is the incumbent, he'll run again. He hasn't registered yet.
Gordon defeated a slate of hard right candidates in the 2018 election. Some of those candidates were pretty unhappy about the results with Foster Freiss being the most unhappy. Given this we can expect some hard right Republicans to surface and challenge him, although he'll win reelection.
In fact, one such candidate has announced he'll run, but hasn't registered.
Rex Rammell: Rammell is a perennial and unelectable candidate who ran last time and will again. His views can be characterized as being on the fringe right/libertarian side.
May 20, 2021
The State Republican Party reelected its leadership.
The leadership in the past few years has been solidly populist. Frank Eathorne, who was elected to the top position in the party, specifically stated that Trump is the leader of the GOP, even though he occupies no such position formally. He went on to state that the Wyoming Republicans don't "worship" Trump, but he speaks to the state GOP like no leaders since Reagan, a statement that is more than a little ironic as the philosophical connections between Reagan and Trump would be mostly nonexistent. Indeed, the remaining Buckeyite conservatives in the GOP, which Reagan represented, largely detest Trump.
The election of Trump backers to the state's leadership is very significant, but it doesn't actually necessary reflect party registration, which thinly participates in the party itself. Indeed, the Wyoming GOP has been so successful at dominating the state's politics that its become, effectively, the only party, which means that it contains a large majority of people who barely participate in politics other than voting, and who tend to pay attention to the candidates therefore on an individual rather than party basis. As nearly any candidate can claim to be a Republican in Wyoming, most who run, run as Republicans.
May 21, 2021
The much anticipated letter by over 100 Republicans has been issued as A Call for American Renewal. It did not call for a new party, as some speculated, but for reform of the GOP. It issued a manifesto that vague at best.
What's mostly clear is that its the formation of an organization dedicated to taking the GOP back from the Trumpites, which is something, but which right now is a long haul. The organization is holding a national town hall on June 16.
May 21, cont:
In the form of the release of a video, in an effort to get ahead of the story, Anthony Bouchard has gone public with the revelation that when he was 18 he got a 14 year old girl pregnant, and that he married her the following year. The marriage later ended in divorce and apparently the relationship with the child, a boy, is somewhat strained and the boy's life somewhat problematic. The woman's must have been, as she committed suicide some time after their divorce (which I'm not saying is Bouchard's fault in any fashion, I don't know anything about it).
Also of note, Bouchard was living in Florida at the time and therefore is, at least it would seem, not a Wyoming native. This is of interest as Wyomingites tend to be nativist and at least two of the notable hard right Cheney opponents are imports.
FWIW, at least in Wyoming, a sexual relationship between an 18 year old and a 14 year old would be, I believe, felonious. This might not have been the case in Florida, I have no idea.
Whatever the nature of this stuff is, this will be a hurdle for Bouchard to overcome.
Note, this is in the spirit of noting political developments, not casting stones. I'm only commenting on the political race.
May 22, 2021
And the plot thickens, as the phrase goes, on the Anthony Bouchard story.
It's now been revealed that Bouchard, in breaking the story himself, was getting ahead of a news story that was getting ready to run in the British newspaper, The Daily Mail. Bouchard became aware of this when he was called by the Mail for an interview. Bouchard claims this was done by a "company", and as of yesterday it was vaguely sort of hinted Cheney was to blame, but the Cheney campaign completely denies this, and frankly the best evidence is that this is attributable to one of the campaigns running against Bouchard for a short at taking on Cheney, not Cheney.
The Daily Mail is a notoriously trashy British newspaper, something that defines a lot of British newspapers, but that doesn't mean its article is inaccurate. By all appearances, it's spot on the money. And the Mail's interview with a "Republican operative" makes it plain that the operative it interviewed is in the "Trump wing of the party". The "operative" was quoted, and said that details regarding Bouchard have been well known behind the scenes in the GOP and then stated something that's undeniably true and which Bouchard should have been aware of, that being ". . . the higher you climb on the flagpole, the more people see your ass", further indicating that Bouchard's blemishes are going to come out.
Something true of all the candidates.
So what the story now is that Bouchard, age 18, impregnated Frances Lynn Webb, age 14, in Florida, around 1983. This is interesting in part because knowing the actual background of the hard right Bouchard has been hard to do. I usually try to put something about a candidates background in if it can be determined, but for such a well known candidate, anything about Bouchard has been hard to find. In contrast, his nearest rival, Chuck Gray, is easy to find information out about (from South Dakota, went to the Wharton School of Business, once aspired to be a lawyer, moved to Wyoming to work at Gray media which owns media outlets, is a practicing Catholic but doesn't note that in his campaign). Bouchard is mostly known for being the head of Wyoming Gun Owners, a gun owners organization that's more radical, if you will, than the NRA and in which Bouchard has been in very vocal public spats. Otherwise, the only thing easily known about his non political life is that he attended, but apparently didn't graduate, from a Florida university.
In Wyoming at any point in recent decades an 18 year old having sex with a 14 year old would be a felony. According to the Tribune, its impossible to know if that's the case or not in regard to Florida in 1983. The Mail also had trouble determining that but it seemed to lean towards it being a crime. According to the Mail, under a Florida "Romeo and Juliet" law, it was possible for a person convicted of what is commonly called "statutory rape" in circumstances in which the couple were in their teens and within a certain age to have his requirement to register as a sex offender removed, but that still doesn't otherwise remove the conviction itself.
Bouchard was never charged with a crime. In Wyoming there is no statute of limitations on crimes, so if this was a Wyoming event, he could still be charged and in fact Wyoming does levy charges against sexual crimes that occurred decades prior. I don'[t know the situation in Florida.
Bouchard married Webb in 1984 and claims that this was, basically, to do the right thing. He further claims that he resisted pressure to urge Webb to abort the child, and that she resisted it too. That may all be 100% true. It's worth noting that in the early 1980s, and indeed well into the 1990s, it was still the case in the larger American culture that having a child out of wedlock was a scandal and many couples that found themselves in this situation, removing for a moment the statutory rape element of it, married to mitigate the scandal Having said that, it was also fairly common at the time for a girl in this situation to have the baby and give it up for adoption.
Which gets to the next thing. In this region of the country a marriage between a 15 year old, which is what Webb was at the time, and an adult was extremely unusual. Given the years involved, this makes me only slightly older than Bouchard and I can't recall anything of this type happening here of which I'm personally aware. I do recall a married high school student in my graduating class, but the marriage would likely have been when she was 17 or maybe 18. Indeed, in my graduating class there wasn't any of the "getting married right after high school" stories that you hear about now, and have classically heard about. But I don't live in Florida.
Florida is part of the South and I don't know where in Florida this all occurred. I'll note that as even as late as the 1980s it was still the case that in some parts of the South really young girls got married, even without scandal. As I've noted here before, I once knew a man from Louisiana who married his wife when she was 13 and he was 19, without the scandal element attaching at all. They just got married, and were when I knew him some twenty years later.
Having said that, there's something deeply odd, putting it mildly, between these relationships. People change at a blistering pace at that age and generally 18 year old men are not interested in 14 year old girls. Again, back when I was that age we tended to have girlfriends, if we had them, who were just about the same age as we were, or perhaps one year younger. I was 17 when I graduated from high school and looking back the only girl I dated in that period was probably 17 when I briefly dated her, 16 at the absolute youngest, but I don't think so. The only one of my friends who had a steady girlfriend at the time dated one of my cousins who was slightly older than he was, so 18 nd 17.
Having said all of that, right out of high school a friend of mine who must have been 18 at the time dates a really young girl who was 14 or 15. I recall that for two reasons, one of which was that we regarded it as deeply creepy, and the other being that he was a member of a religion where there's pressure to marry really young and she was too. He soon dumped her and soon thereafter was dating a second girl who was also a member of that religion and who was within about a year of his age.
The latter point illustrates something, however. The changes in people in this age range are so swift that normally, in most of American society, 18 year olds don't have much interest in 14 year olds, and 14 year olds are children. As people age, the gap between their years widens, and later on its not unusual at all to see a decade between the ages of a married couple, with the man usually being the older. Once girls hit 18 years old, its not unusual for them to date men several years older. By the time they're 20, that age gap widens. Right about then, a decade's difference isn't unusual and that gap tends to remain for the rest of a person's years. I.e., a 50 year old marrying a 40 year old doesn't' raise eyebrows.
The difference between age 14 and 18 is four years. So is the difference between age 14 and age 10.
To complete the story, the couple's son was born. The marriage lasted only three years. Webb's father was dead from suicide prior to their relationship commencing. She took the same path at age 20. Not much more than that can be said about that, other than that she was troubled in some regard. The son is as well, as he's being held in California on some extremely serious sexual assault charges. Bouchard claims to be "nearly estranged" from the son he raised, and which he always had custody of after the divorce, and that may well be true.
Turning to the overall event, Bouchard should have realized from the onset, as the GOP operative stated, that this was going to come out. But what impact will it have?
Well, it probably ought to have some. It's getting a lot of press and the reaction has been interesting.
Bouchard termed the tragic story a Romeo and Juliet story, and that quote has gotten a lot of press. Bouchard's probable reference here is to the fact that the story is a tragedy and that the couple in the story were teenagers. I don't know the ages, however, of the couple in Shakespeare's play as I've never seen it performed and its one of his works that frankly doesn't interest me. Looking it up, apparently Shakespeare never says the protagonist ages, but there's scholarly speculation that she's 13 and he's somewhat older, which gives me even less incentive to read this than before.
Bouchard's use of the play has, interestingly, received a lot of criticism for improper citation to Shakespeare. I don't want to defend Bouchard, but here he's actually using the play correctly in my view. It's a tragedy, and the story related by Bouchard, no matter what you think of him, is overall really tragic.
Some of the commentary in this area tries to defend the play by noting that, in context, the central characters would be older now. Well. . . I get that, but probably not It probably reflects something else in those cultures and that time. For what its worth, the central characters in War and Peace are introduced at a party in which the female protagonists are also that age, and the male ones in their 20s, which is creepier still. But before we take that too far, its worth noting, as we have before, that marriage ages in earlier times actually aren't higher than they are now, and that child brides were really unusual then as well. Young marriage ages may have been legal, and girls, who weren't in school at the time, perhaps introduced as future marriage candidates fairly young, but actual really young couples and marriage wasn't a thing, for the most part, in western society. Exceptions of course exist.
Beyond that, what's really interesting is that Bouchard's die hard supporters, and he had them before he announced, aren't phased a bit but are actually fired up. They see him as the victim of a conspiracy and his confession as proof of his nobleness. It's the last part that's really baffling.
Donald Trump's supporters have frequently talked of "Trump Derangement Syndrome", a phenomenon they claim features a person having a violent reaction to all things Trump. There's something to that, but it could also be claimed that there's a Derangement Syndrome that operates the other way. I've repeatedly seen populist who have fallen in love with Trump excuse things he did, when they were revealed, even if it meant doubling over backwards on their beliefs. Now we're seeing that with Bouchard.
There's no way to defend an 18 year old screwing a 14 year old. None. Granting the classic "people make mistakes", with this being a particularly icky mistake, this is a really icky story. There's now way to sweep it under the rug, but there are ways to handle it, I guess. Bouchard has tried to do that, apparently (I haven't watched his video), but something he should do is to damp down the "see what a hero he is" reaction. Granted further, if the story is true that he resisted calls for an abortion, and she did too, they really did act heroically in that fashion, but this story is gross any way you look at it. Bouchard probably owes it to the facts to call on people to stop praising him in this area.
He might owe it to everyone to call of his race, but he doesn't seem inclined to. A mistake can disqualify a person for later office, even if they've repented. Sex with a 14 year old and a following tragedy that keeps on may be one of those.
Certainly the same political camp that's praising Bouchard now offered no such mercy to Joe Biden over the story of his son Hunter. Will they apologize now?
Resigning from campaigns doesn't seem to be a Republican thing anymore. So he may very well keep on. But what we now know about this candidate is that he had a real skeleton in his closet that produced an ongoing tragedy, and that he's not a Wyomingite in the way that a lot of Wyomingites qualify that category. Liz Cheney is the daughter of a Nebraskan who is associated with Wyoming, and who has taken a lot of heat, including from me, for think associations with the state. Bouchard moved here at some point and has lived here for some time, but for how long?
Bouchard's campaign claims that Wyoming needs a Congressman as conservative as he is. One more conservative than Cheney is almost impossible to imagine. Wyoming also needs an effective one, which Cheney has been. Bouchard has been loud, for sure, and is in the Legislature, but we're only now getting to know much about him. The Republican operative is right. The higher you climb on the flagpole, the more your ass shows.
May 25, 2021
The Wyoming Senate is considering censuring Anthony Bouchard over the 18/14 pregnancy matter.
Bouchard indicated that he's not dropping out of the race and his campaign coordinator indicates that he's campaign donations have gone up since the story broke.
That's frankly a bit disturbing.
The Tribune article on this matter interviews another member of the legislature that Bouchard has claimed is a supporter of the "deep state". That individual noted that Bouchard's video breaking the news, as we've noted above, isn't really an apology for what occurred. The Tribune article also makes it plain that the Republican "operative" acted to "clean" the field for Cheney opponents, so the suspicion that some have that its people associated with Cheney, as noted above is unwarranted.
Frankly, digging up dirt to discredit an opponent is reprehensible, for the most part. But there's something really unsettling here overall about the Bouchard reaction and that of his supporters. Democratic candidates over the last decade have apologized and resigned for much less than this. Bouchard isn't resigning (that's definitely his call) but dismissing this as merely a mistake, and some of his supporters really rallying to him, basically excuses what most people would regard as an extremely reprehensible act. And when such acts are excused, at some point, they become fully excusable.
This is probably an overall symptom of where the nation's politics are right now. If things like this really mean nothing, particularly in regard to Republicans, we're in a pretty bad place in terms of our overall culture right now, not that this is really a surprise, and our politics are in a really distressing place, not that this is a surprise.
May 25, 2021, cont:
The fight over and with Bouchard has actually grown much worse than the Trib has let on. Indeed, Bouchard ought to be praising the Tribune for its restraint.
One of the conservative Internet Wyoming news organs isn't showing such restraint however, and Bouchard is now in a real public spat with Ogden Driscoll, the majority floor leader in the Senate. For example:
Calling Bouchard a “predator”, Driskill said there is a “huge difference” between a high school student dating a younger peer and a high school dropout who had a job and was “hanging out with 13 and 14-year-olds”.
“That was not acceptable back then,” he said. “In fact, where I’m from you took your life in your own hands if you went out to date junior high girls.”
Yikes.
All this would suggest that the members of the GOP do more details than have hit the press. Somebody has now asked Bouchard if he was in high school when this happened, and at least as of press time, he hadn't responded.
Bouchard has, in turn, accused Driscoll of "lining his pockets", without details, and in a new video calls him "scum".
May 26, 2021
Marjorie Taylor Greene, the gadfly freshman Congressman who is pretty clearly a type of troll, has entered the Wyoming political scene in a bizarre way because of Anthony Bouchard.
Bouchard turns out to be a Greene supporter and he recently returned to his home state of Florida to participate in her "America First" rally . Matt Gaetz, facing potential charges for alleged sex with an underaged women, was also there giving a certain extra added element of irony to the Bouchard story.
A story was circulating the past couple of days that suggested that the Senate was looking a censuring Bouchard over his involvement with a 14 year old when he was 18. This lead to a very public spat with Senator Driskill whom he apparently doesn't get along with, which we noted above, which in turn led to Bouchard comparing himself to Greene and posting:
“The RINO establishment led by Sen. Ogden Driskill wants to strip me of committees. Just like Pelosi did to #MTG BRING IT,”
Cheney supported the Republicans in the House who condemned Greene's recent statements comparing mask wearing to the holocaust. Condemnation, we'd note, on this was very wide. Robin Belinsky, the doomed Wyoming candidate who calls herself Wyoming's Greene, distanced herself from the comments, a pretty good sign of how extreme they are, while still stating that Greene had a right to say them. Bouchard didn't comment on them, but this gave the Tribune the opportunity to note Bouchard's support for Greene, which given his participation in her populist rally in Florida, is obviously pretty extensive.
It turns out that the Senate isn't really considering stripping Bouchard of his committee assignments, but what is the case is just what one of his anti Cheney GOP critics noted, the higher he climbs on the flagpole the more his ass is showing. Driskill was brutal in his criticism of Bouchard, and if what he's hinting is correct it does put another element into this. Bouchard, moreover, who has some real populist support in the GOP but who no doubt wasn't widely followed in wider circles, let alone by the general (Republican) public is shown to really be in the extreme end of things thanks to the press he's now getting, as for example that he's a supporter of Greene. Greene seems to be focused on being a troll and has no committee assignments at all in Congress, meaning that she's reduced to nothing but making outrageous statements for attention.
Rather than taking a repentant tone over things, Bouchard is asserting that the "deep state" is coming after him.
The primary, it should be noted, isn't until next year. All the inside predictions favor Cheney, but obviously that's been no deterrent to a flood of primary candidates. This field will narrow enormously as time goes on but Bouchard, who some populists favored, is being subject to a spotlight that's sufficiently bright that at lease one member of the state Senate doesn't mind openly criticizing him and, moreover, much more is coming to light about him. While its very early, my predictions are that he'll stay in through the primary, but his Wyoming political career has basically ended.
May 28, 2021
Foster Friess, Republican "megadonor" who had relocated to Wyoming and involved himself in the state's politics in recent years, albeit not successfully, died at age 81. While is death of bone marrow cancer takes him from the political scene directly, it will none the less have an impact on the race as he was the campaign manager for Darin Smith, who had been Friess' campaign manager when he ran for Governor.
Friess was not a Wyomingite, but had grown up in Wisconsin and then later lived in Texas, but in very recent years was eligible to run as he'd claimed Jackson Hole as his residence, making him part of the super wealthy set from there. He ran in the 2018 Governor's race unsuccessfully and was somewhat bitter about his defeat in the primary election, coming in second, but a not too distant second. In 2019 he had an exploratory committee working on his chances for another run but terminated it soon thereafter. His 2018 campaign had a real southern feel to it, featuring for example scantily clad young women. Smith's present campaign, absent the young women, somewhat has a feel reflective of Friess. He definitely had an impact on the state's politics, although it can be debated whether it was good or bad, with that probably being reflective of your political views.
While potentially in bad form to note it, Friess' death points out, to some degree, the lack of wisdom in continually electing ancient candidates to office. He did not win, of course, but had he, the Secretary of State in Wyoming would now be the Governor.
Looking back on the 2018 election, Friess competition with Harriet Hageman perhaps was indicative of disturbing trends to come. Both candidates were hard right candidates, but Friess always came across as affable and even jovial, which perhaps won him some votes. It's difficult to know, of course, but the split in the vote in 2018 might mean nothing at all, or it might have been a sign of how far to the right the GOP was drifting. Friess, it should be noted, can't really be regarded as having been a populist.
June 6, 2021
Harold Bjork has started a campaign for the GOP nomination for Governor, although he hasn't yet registered as running.
Who is he? I don't know, but from what little you can tell, this "conservative" candidate is running pretty far to the right of Gordon and seems to be strongly opposed to the now expired mask mandate.
FWIW, all the candidates who run for this position, including the Democratic top contender, are conservative by conventional, or at least pre Trump, definitions. As the current trends have made these terms a bit obsolete, realistically candidates to the far right likely really fit into some other category.
June 14, 2021
Some sort of debate was held for the Congressional election on June 12, which was we might note an exceedingly busy day in Casper where this event was held. On the same day, Mills, the neighboring city, celebrated its 100th anniversary with concerts and a summer festival, the College National Finals Rodeo started, and the LGBQT community held a Pride event at Casper's Durbin Street Station. Suffice it to say, getting any attention in a day that had so many varied things going on would be difficult to say the least.
It appears to have been sponsored by an entity using the American First moniker, now associated with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Liz Cheney was not in attendance and there is no reason that she would be, as this event was specifically a remove Cheney event. Interestingly Anthony Bouchard, the standard bearer for the this line of thought in Wyoming, up until perhaps recently, wasn't there either. A supporter notes that he was elsewhere in the comments, but he's also been somewhat quiet since the events of his early years described above came to press. His nearest rivals were there, however.
A note, I haven't watched this video.
June 19, 2021
Candidate Gray visited the Arizona partisan audit, something some other far right populist have recently done. Liz Cheney has termed the audit an attempt to "subvert" democracy.
Gray, in his campaign materials, has a poster showing the diminutive Wharton School of Business educated Gray in suit and tie wearing boxing gloves taking on "never Trumpers" Cheney and Mitt Romney. Clearly he's angling for the populist vote. At some point, however, serious questions probably ought to be asked if some of these candidates are pitching softballs to what's being hit, or if they truly believe what they're stating, and if so, why.
June 21, 2021
Ammon Bundy, a member of the Bundy family that occupied a Federal wildlife refuge under a claim that they had the right to graze it, which ended up in a standoff with Federal authorities, is running for the Governor of Idaho. Given convictions due to that event its not clear to us how he can actually run.
June 24, 2021
It turns out that the individual who sponsored the America First debate mentioned above is a resident of Florida.
And, in an odd turn of events, both Liz Cheney and Anthony Bouchard have criticized the individual, K. W. Miller, who acted as the forum moderator. The spat with Cheney is an obvious one, but with Bouchard less so. None the less, an entity supporting Miller has attacked Bouchard and accused him of being in league with "George Soros affiliated" leftwing groups and have accused "Bouchard sycophants" of trying to disrupt the debate.
Miller has endorsed Chuck Gray.
Whatever the merits or demerits of Bouchard, it seems fairly clear that he and George Sorors are unlikely to share any connections.
June 26, 2021
The New York Times is reporting that Wyoming's Democratic Party, combined with some Republicans, were part of a targeted effort at, for lack of a better word, infiltration that had ties to the founder of Blackwater and funding from the Wyoming Liberty Group.
The effort appears to have been unsuccessful, and even inept, but it's a shocking example of just how weird politics have become recently.
Prior Threads: