Wednesday, May 9, 2018

Today In Wyoming's History: May 8. The LDS severs ties with the BSA.

 From our companion blog, Today In Wyoming's History:
Today In Wyoming's History: May 8: 2018  Following the Boys Scouts official departure from being an organization in anyway dedicated to the development of young men, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) severed association with the Boy Scouts.  The joint statement issued by the Boy Scouts and the Mormon church stated the following:
A Joint Statement from
 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
 and
 The Boy Scouts of America
May 8, 2018 
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Boy Scouts of America have been partners for more than 100 years. The Scouting program has benefited hundreds of thousands of Latter-day Saint boys and young men, and BSA has also been greatly benefited in the process. We jointly express our gratitude to the thousands of Scout leaders and volunteers who have selflessly served over the years in Church-sponsored Scouting units, including local BSA districts and councils. 
In this century of shared experience, the Church has grown from a U.S.-centered institution to a worldwide organization, with a majority of its membership living outside the United States. That trend is accelerating. The Church has increasingly felt the need to create and implement a uniform youth leadership and development program that serves its members globally. In so doing, it will be necessary for the Church to discontinue its role as a chartered partner with BSA. 
We have jointly determined that, effective on December 31, 2019, the Church will conclude its relationship as a chartered organization with all Scouting programs around the world. Until that date, to allow for an orderly transition, the intention of the Church is to remain a fully engaged partner in Scouting for boys and young men ages 8–13 and encourages all youth, families, and leaders to continue their active participation and financial support.  
While the Church will no longer be a chartered partner of BSA or sponsor Scouting units after December 31, 2019, it continues to support the goals and values reflected in the Scout Oath and Scout Law and expresses its profound desire for Scouting’s continuing and growing success in the years ahead.
While the severance of relations, effective on December 31, 2019, more than one year away at the time it was announced, was issued as a "joint statement", it was a slam to the the BSA in more ways than one.  For one thing the Mormons had been traditionally huge supporters of Scouting,
continuing on a relationship with churches that in some ways reflected an earlier era when Scouting was heavily invested in churches.  The line "While the Church will no longer be a chartered partner of BSA or sponsor Scouting units after December 31, 2019, it continues to support the goals and values reflected in the Scout Oath and Scout Law" is a shot right under the water line at the Scouts at that, as by severing its relationship with the BSA it implicitly is indicating that it feels that the BSA itself is no longer really true to its original mission and that the LDS church must accordingly break its ties to it.

Where this will go is far from clear, but the public severance by the Mormons nearly closes out an era of close association of various religions with the BSA and reflects a wider societal split on what some very basic values in our society are going to be.  It's also a brave move for the LDS as its takes them very decidedly out into the currently prevailing winds, while at the same time it may be one more move that indicates that Scouting itself is basically coming to an end as it tries to accommodate social trends which run contrary to its original existential purpose.

This is posted here on this site, of course, as the Mormon church is widely represented in some areas of Wyoming as are Scout troops associated with it.
I could have gone on from here.  It was clear that the Mormons were having trouble with their association with the BSA the last few years in general.  With the latest BSA move the Mormons simply could no longer, apparently, accommodate themselves to the socially "progressive" direction the BSA seems to be determined to accommodate, or at least knuckle under to.  In its statement it notes that the LDS church has more members overseas than it does in the US, and that too is telling as the Mormons may have correctly picked up on something that some other churches in the US and Europe have failed to grasp, which is that not only is the majority of the globe not following the western world in certain "progressive" developments, the opposite is in fact the case.  Most of the world, including those parts that have adopted western liberal democratic ideas, are increasingly socially conservative, not socially liberal.  Organizations with a global reach should be at least somewhat aware of that.

It'll be interested to see how this develops.  It would seem likely that the Mormons will form their own Scouting type organization based on the original Scouting concepts.  If they do, they won't be forming the first such organization.  I'll be curious if, assuming they do that, they limit that organization to an all Mormon one or unite it with other severing groups.  I'd guess  they'd do the latter.

2 comments:

stiener said...

The Left will never be happy until they destroy every institution and tradition in the USA. Even then they would not be satisfied. I loved the BSA and lament it`s passing.

Pat, Marcus & Alexis said...

I have a draft post on the current political dynamics on the left, right, extreme left and extreme right, that will hope to touch on some of this, if I ever get it done and get around to posting it.

One thing about this however is that the hard left undoubtedly is much more assertive about advancing its views than conservatives are about advancing theirs, in a general societal sense. This might play into the American mode of thinking a bit in that tolerance of views is such an American ideology that the difference between tolerance and acceptance of views is not really understood. If considered, a lot of things can be tolerated without being accepted, but the concept of tolerance is used by "progressives" to such an extent that tolerance now is generally equated with acceptance, and Americans pretty much believe that they must accept everything as they have to tolerate it.

This has allowed some really extreme progressive concepts to advance in recent years that generally haven't reflected the common view at the time, but they its soon believed after the fact that they do. And some organizations, including the Boy Scouts, have been really cowardly about standing their ground on anything. Ironically, the Girl Scouts have been much better about defending their ground and find the recent move by the Boy Scouts to be a bit offensive to them. Even at that, conservatives have generally not tried to move the ball on such matters much (there are certain exceptions) so even while some changes that run contrary to their views are adopted with thin support, they don't push back when they can. An example of this is the opening up of ground combat roles in the military to women. This is universally regarded as a bad idea and unwelcome meddling by actual troops and the pure advancement of a social goal, but when the GOP came into full legislative and executive power, it's done nothing at all about it even though it obviously could.

So too with the Scouts. There's no real reason to believe that this is a widely demanded social view, but now that its happened, it's happened, and there's almost no chance that the advancement in this direction, no matter what it will mean, will be reconsidered.