Friday, May 17, 2019

The Collapse of the Standard of Dress



This post comes about only partially because of our focus on a century ago, and what the photos of that era depict.  Its much more closely related to a conversation a couple of friends and I engaged in via email.

That conversation came up in the context of how people dress in certain settings, and more specifically it was an observation regarding dress on Easter.  Conversations of this type always put me at a disadvantage as I live in the Rocky Mountain West where the standard of dress for Catholics at Mass has been fairly low my entire life.

Indeed, quite frankly, that standard has risen a bit in recent years, even though its still not as high as it might be in certain other churches.  I think the general reason for this is that adherent Catholics attend Mass every weekend as well as on additional Holy Days so we're acclimated to attending our churches in a bit of a different fashion than some others.  In addition, in this region, while there were always Catholic professionals, Catholics up until some point after World War Two were most likely in blue collar or agricultural work, and therefore they tended to have clothes that reflected that.

Or maybe that's not the reason at all, but for as long as I can remember, seeing Catholics at Mass in highly casual clothing has been the norm.  When you see somebody wearing more formal clothes at a regular Mass it tends to be a bit of a surprise.  This apparently isn't as true everywhere.

Anyhow, be that as it may, the overall standard of dress in the United States had declined to a nearly incredible rate. 

I've noted it here before, but I used to tell people who were going to appear in court as witnesses to "dress their Sunday best", even though for Catholics that didn't mean all that much.  I quit doing that as it was pretty clear that it didn't mean anything to a lot of people in general, however.  Fairly early in my career men quite showing up in court with jacket and tie, as they lacked them.

Given that, I was really surprised to appear at an event recently in which the instruction was "Sunday dress".  Given that, I wore a coat and tie.  I noticed that the majority of people got it, although a majority of men didn't wear ties.  Some others certainly did, however.  

Others didn't, and I noticed that there were a few men who kept baseball caps on the entire time.  And not just young men who are acclimated to a world in which a baseball game is apparently suddenly going to break out at any moment.  At least one guy who is in his 40s or 50s wore his baseball cap the entire time.  Shoot, and this in a building that had dimmed lights.

That's just sloppy.

Which I guess gets back to the point.

And that gets back to a much earlier thread, that I'm going to repost in its entirety before I move on, as I've covered so much of this before:

The massively declined standard of dress (and does it matter?)

This blog notes, as we've stated many times before, changes over history. Specifically, it supposedly looks at the 1890 to about 1920 time frame, but we also frankly hardly ever stick to that.  Oh well.

Business men (lawyers) in the early 20th Century. These men aren't dressed up, they would have been dressed in this fashion every day.  Given the boater style hat worn by the man on the left, this photograph must have been taken in summer.

A lot of times the observations that take place here are based on what we can observe in historic documents and photographs. But on this topic, which I just posted on in a way in a post on school clothing standards, and which I've flat out posted on before, I've actually observed a change, and I'm really starting to observe in an ever increasing fashion now.  As I noted in that post, the clothing policy that's in place now, was the same on in place 40 years ago. Having said that, public standards of dress really have changed, and changed a very great deal.

On that, I'll note that it's one thing to say that we can look at photos of the past, which we can, and note that clothing standards have declined.  It's another to be able to say that you personally recall it.  And its something else to say both.

This is brought on, really, as I've been in a lot of airports recently, although I've also been noticing it in other contexts as well.  If there's a place that's better suited to observe a cross section of Americans than the airport, I don't know what it is.  At the airport, and more specifically a big city airport, people of every class and station are present. And man, have our dress standards declined.

 
Denver International Airport.  If a person enjoyed people watching (which isn't my favorite thing to do), this would be a good place to do it.
I'm not anywhere near old enough to be able to recall an era when airline passengers wore suit and tie, and the equivalent for women, but that has been something that's been widely observed.  I've seen that explained on the basis that air travel was special, and people accordingly dress up.

 
 Sailor boarding Western Airlines C-46 in the early 1950s, from the Casper International Airport.

I don't believe it.  They dressed up for the train and bus too. 

Railroad yards, Kearney, Nebraska. Overland train passengers go back to their cars after ten minute train stop on trip between San Francisco and Chicago
 Cross country train passengers, on rest break, Kearney Nebraska, 1944

 People were, quite frankly, just better dressed, and everywhere.

In many instances, they were more formally dressed.  Men clearly wore suit and tie much more often than they do now, well into the 20th Century. "Business attire" was suit and tie.  Now, that is not the case and the term is probably unknown to many. Men's suits have almost become relegated to a very narrow set of occupations and occasions, and even with them its declining.  I've attended a mediation, for example, fairly recently where one of the attending attorneys did not wear suit and tie, and was dressed in "business casual". Not all that long ago that would have been simply unthinkable.  For that matter, we used to always wear at least a tie in a deposition but now, more often than not, that's not the case.  I went to one deposition fairly recently where one of the attorneys was wearing sandals, something that just would not have occurred a decade ago.

 Secretary (who remain among the best dressed office workers) in the 1940s.

It isn't just lawyers, of course, who wore business suits.  The number of men who wore suits well into the 1950s, every day, is hard to grasp by modern standards.  Men who worked in offices wore suits, and many others who worked indoors, or just worked in cities, did as well.  Almost every professional wore a suit every day, but then so did men who had "business" positions.  Suit and tie, or at least coat and tie, were the norm.

Typical office, 1902.   The female secretary would have actually been somewhat unusual at this time.

This standard of dress for the employed adult remained common all the way through the 1950s, and began to decline during the 1960s.  Probably the cultural revolution that commenced about that time had a large influence, and it actually influenced business wear at the time, which didn't go away, but did start to modify. Still, into the 1970s I can distinctly recall professionals wearing ties every day. By the 1980s, some classes of them, such as doctors and dentists, no longer did.

When I started practicing law in 1990 suits and ties were already not common for most office workers most places.  That era had passed. But they were frequently seen being worn by lawyers.  They still are, but that's because lawyers, along with a very few other professions, still have coat and tie or at least suit and tie as parts of their "uniform".  But a big change has occurred even here.  As noted above, when I started out, not only would you see them frequently in the office, and worn everyday by older lawyers, you'd always see them in depositions.  Now, that's not the case.  I've attended a fair number of depositions recently in which the lawyers at them were wearing blue jeans and dress shirts, but no ties. Something that would never have occurred in the past.  I still normally wear a tie to a deposition, and except when its hot, I'll often wear one every day.  Maybe that's a call back to the old standard of professionalism, or the old uniform, or maybe that's just because I'm old.

I will say that by and large women in offices are much more routinely nicely dressed than men. Their "uniform" was always more vague, most men couldn't describe it, and perhaps that's allowed them somehow to retain more professional dress.  Anyhow, generally they are more professionally dressed. 

This doesn't men that men in offices are slovenly, but it does mean that as a rule we're now fairly casual.  Jeans and semi dress shirts are the common business attire in many places now, but not all.  In big cities, at least, the uniforms seems to hang on to a much greater degree in professional offices.  But, in some ways, the old business standard is now really only common among lawyers, real estate agents, and newscasters.  

It's not that I'm any different, however.  I'll note that while I'll often wear khaki trousers, button down shirt, and tie, I too wear jeans a lot more than I used to.  So perhaps even in noting this, I'm somewhat hypocritical.

It's not just that dress is more casual, however, but it's less real, in some ways, or odder, or perhaps more in the nature of an attempted personal statement than every before.  Men and women rarely dressed in a fanciful manner to the extent they do now.  Some did, to be sure. Some occupations have always worn very distinctive and somewhat ornamental clothing, and starting in the 1920s the young started to definitely wear clothing that tended to mark them out from their elders.   In earlier years, for that matter, "dandies" were young men who dressed fancifully, and were noted for it.  The 1920s saw flapper attire, for example, and raccoon skin coats.  So the trend, perhaps, dates back at least that far, if not further, but it's of a bit different character somehow.

 Mary LaFollette, daughter of Senator LaFollette, wearing a raccoon coat at at time when they were associated with avant guarde youth for some reason.  Ms. LaFollette would have been in her 30s at the time this photo was taken, making her choice of coat unusual.

Flapper, 1922, in winter (note the rubber boots).

Zoot suiters dancing, 1940s. The Zoot Suit exaggerated the features of the business suit, almost recalling the 19th Century frock coat.  Bigger, baggier, and bigger overall, they were considered sort of offensive to some, for some reason.  The uniform of rebellion in the late 1930s, the style was particularly associated with blacks and Hispanics at the time, which might be why white teens affecting the look were regarded as rebellious. The style has hung on to a small extent in some Pacific Coast Hispanic communities.

A full blown suspension of any concept of standard dress, which is sort of what we're seeing, is actually very recent, however.  There was prior youthful clothing affectation, but in order to actually dress to shock, there has to be some standard to measure against. That's increasingly no longer the case. At the airport, once again, it's clear that there are no standards, well actually very few standards, apply to Americans in dress at all.

At the Denver International Airport this past week I observed all manners of dress, from very formal, to extremely sloppy.  Some men were dressed in suits, probably headed to meetings or to court. Oilfield workers in the uniforms of their trade.  Many men and women in t-shirts and jeans.  Some young men seeking to show their avant guard status in the uniform of their avant guard class, impossibly tight jeans, shirt, and stubble. And women in all matters of dress from the 19th Century down to nearly no dress at all.

And that brings up a question.

Does that matter?

Well, it might.

Casual is one thing, and we've seen that around for quite awhile. But all clothing sends some sort of message, and the question therefore would become is casual appropriate for everything, and is what we're now seeing something a bit beyond casual. Let's look at the second question first.

Going back to the airport, I was walking down a concourse when, going the other way, I observed a young woman struggling with a bag.  I don't know her age, and I'm frankly not very good at judging the age of young people.  If pressed, I'd guess that she was maybe 17, which given my general inability in this area, means that she was probably at least 16 and perhaps 22.  Who knows.  Although here too, that makes a difference.

It makes a difference as her dress was, quite frankly, indecent.  It would have been appropriate for a profession in which she was offering her wares for sale, which again is to say indecent, but it certainly wasn't decent for being in common company such as getting on an airplane.  I was, quite frankly, embarrassed for her, which tends to be the reaction of somebody who knows that the actual person isn't embarrassed themselves, but sure should be.  If she was 17, her parents shouldn't have let her out of the house dressed as she was.  If she wasn't, her parents should be ashamed on how things are seemingly turning out. So should she.

But, the remarkable thing is that this is no longer remarkable.  It's hard to get through DIA without running into some woman who appears to be on display.  And it's also hard to get through DIA without running into a younger male who is also on display, which at least for men of my generations is also an embarrassing thing to see.

For that matter, however, it's been equally embarrassing to go by any of the local middle schools in recent years, dropping kids off, and having to witness what some very young teens manage to get out of the house wearing.  Not all by any means, but enough to notice. What are their parents thinking?  It actually seems to be better by the time they get to high school, having perhaps wised up a bit in the intervening couple of years.

Now, I don't want to suggest that every single woman in DIA, or anywhere else, is dressed in this fashion.  Not at all.  On the same trip there were women looking for a plane that were dressed in the type of dress that Amish or Hutterite women dress in.  So you see everything.  But the change here isn't so much that we see them, as we have come to accept that young women can appear anywhere in what would have been regarded as indecent, and young men can appear in clothing that would have been regarded as perhaps more suitable for young women, not all that long ago. Quite a change.

On the women, and I'll expound on this separately, the problem is that this really is an offense to their dignity.  Once on display, they're an object, and I can't imagine why anyone would want to be regarded in that fashion.  The clothing goes from "look at me", to offering something for nothing.  And by doing that, they're no longer going to be judged for anything else, not even really their looks, but rather in what they suggest about their conduct. And as its common, it also suggests that's common conduct.  Not a good thing at all.

Well, does anyone care at all, if it does matter?

This is a topic that gets a surprising amount of discussion in some quarters, although perhaps not in the quarters which it should.  For one thing, its a surprisingly common topic on certain sites where religious conservatives hang out, as some there feel that a certain level of dress is appropriate at least in Church.  On one such site, for example, a quote from St. Francis de Sales was recently posted, in which he noted, regarding appropriate dress in general, the following.
St. Paul expresses his desire that all Christian women should wear “modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety;”—and for that matter he certainly meant that men should do so likewise.
Now, modesty in dress and its appearances depends upon the quality, the fashion and the cleanliness thereof. As to cleanliness, that should be uniform, and we should never, if possible, let any part of our dress be soiled or stained. External seemliness is a sort of indication of inward good order, and God requires those who minister at His Altar, or minister in holy things, to be attentive in respect of personal cleanliness.
As to the quality and fashion of clothes, modesty in these points must depend upon various circumstances, age, season, condition, the society we move in, and the special occasion. Most people dress better on a high festival than at other times; in Lent, or other penitential seasons, they lay aside all gay apparel; at a wedding they wear wedding garments, at a funeral, mourning garb; and at a king’s court the dress which would be unsuitable at home is suitable.
Always be neat, do not ever permit any disorder or untidiness about you. There is a certain disrespect to those with whom you mix in slovenly dress; but at the same time avoid all vanity, peculiarity, and fancifulness. As far as may be, keep to what is simple and unpretending–such dress is the best adornment of beauty and the best excuse for ugliness.
St. Peter bids women not to be over particular in dressing their hair. Every one despises a man as effeminate who lowers himself by such things, and we count a vain woman as wanting in modesty, or at all events what she has becomes smothered among her trinkets and furbelows. They say that they mean no harm, but I should reply that the devil will contrive to get some harm out of it all.
For my own part I should like my devout man or woman to be the best dressed person in the company, but the least fine or splendid, and adorned, as St. Peter says, with “the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit.” St. Louis said that the right thing is for every one to dress according to his position, so that good and sensible people should not be able to say they are over-dressed, or younger gayer ones that they are under-dressed. But if these last are not satisfied with what is modest and seemly, they must be content with the approbation of the elders.
While I suppose that some could take exception with some of this, all in all its pretty good advice and it applies in the secular world as well, which may be why dress is also a topic that shows up on certain male "manliness" sites.  And no wonder.  One of the odd trends in dress over the past seventy years is that male dress, among youth, trended towards being exaggerated blue collar in the 1950s, and then just counter culture in the 60s, to both in the 70s and 80s, but then sort of slowly slid towards the effeminate in the 1990s.  Male dress among the hip and cool is much more effeminate now than it was in prior decades, although that's a trend that's happened in some past eras as well.  No doubt there's a reason for it, but I don't know (or even really care much), what it is, other that that if a guy has to put a lot of work into looking a sort of femaleish disheveled, they have too much time on their hands.  Oddly, at the same time, there's been no trend for women to look more feminine, although there's definitely been a trend encouraging them to put themselves more on display, which benefits only men really, and not women at all.  Balancing it out on the male end, a bit, there's now a counter trend in the "hipster" category where men dress sort of lumberjack like and grow their beards out Russian Old Believer like.  I actually kind of like the trend.

I should note, in all of this, that I probably have no real room to act as a social critic here. Well, maybe I do, but not one that can't be criticized.  I was part of the great t-shirt wearing male mass of the late 1970s and 1980s and I didn't even own a suit until I was in my last year, I think, of my undergraduate studies, when I got one in order to attend the wedding of the first of my high school friends to get married (odd to think it was that late, we'd been out of high school for five years at the time).  I didn't learn how to even tie a tie until basic training at Ft. Sill, and I didn't routinely wear one until I became a lawyer.  So I wasn't exactly an advertisement for Brooks Brothers (although I've owned a couple of their very fine suits).  Prior to 1986, I was more likely to be clad in a t-shirt and jeans than anything else, even in winter.  Starting around 1984 or so I started to be afflicted with being old all winter long, which I still am, and started wearing heavy shirts in the winter, which outside of work I still do.  Getting wiser to things after that, I usually wear a long sleeve shirt even in the summer, and just roll up the sleeves when its hot, particularly if I do outdoor work, thereby turning full circle as I knew to do that even when I was a teen and wasn't.

Anyhow, looking like a cowhand  on my free time for most of my life doesn't qualify me to seemingly offer sartorial commentary.  And it probably particularly does not as, referring back to the entry immediately above, being a Catholic in the upper plains means I'm part of that odd demographic that doesn't tend to dress up for Church, so that whole debate is sort of outside of my experience.  That may seem odd, but most Catholics in this region, perhaps because the churches are either hot or cold depending upon the season, or because everyone came from a blue collar or agricultural background at one time, tend not to dress up for Church at all. They still don't either, including myself.  Only a few people do, and by my observation if you happen to attend a Spanish language Mass, you'll see the best dressed people as Mexican immigrants tend to dress nicely, but in a nice rural fashion for the men.

An interesting question here might be, what happened?  And I think the answer might be different for men as opposed to women.  What I'll note first, however, is that men who have a distinct outdoors job tend to suspend fashion and wear the dress appropriate for that job.  Oilfield workers still dress for that vocation. Cowboys dress like cowboys on and off the ranch.  Soldiers tend to look like soldiers no matter what they are doing.   And that's part of the answer to this, I think.

 Oilfield roughnecks of the 1940s.  Roughnecks today would look much the same, except that now they wear "FRs", Fire Resistant Clothing, and metal helmets have been replaced by plastic.

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Modern cowboys, whose general appearance hasn't really changed much for well over a century.

In an earlier era, when every vocation was more "real", if you will, or rather perhaps when more men worked in manual vocations, there was little interest in fanciful dress.  For those who worked in town, at one time they desire seemed to be to show that they'd achieved an indoor status.  Indeed, some have noted that the standards of dress remained remarkably high in the 1920s and 1930s, first when many Americans started moving off of farms and into the cities, and secondly during the Great Depression, as that was the way of showing that you'd overcome your past.  The standards then carried on until they had a reason, or at least there was some sort of cause, or lack of a reason to change.

Let's look at this a bit more closely.

To start with, something worth noting is that the number of clothes we now have, and the ease of washing them as well, far exceeds anything from even the relatively recent past, and certain at the point we need to start this story, which probably needs to go back at least until the 19th Century, if not further back. We'll start in the second half of the 1800s.

At that time the majority of Americans were rural in character and the majority of those who were not worked at some sort of trade.  Shopkeepers, businessmen and professionals existed, but they were nowhere near the percentage of the population that they now are. And that has an impact on our story.

Most Americans, even mid century, were clothed in clothes that had been locally made, if in fact not made at home by a family seamstress. And they didn't have much in the way of a change of clothing either.  Old recounts of people at the time often note rural people wearing "homespun", that is wool clothing made from cloth weaved at home.  "Homespun" was almost a synonymy for rustic, or primitive.  When somebody, even now, talks about "homespun tales", they hearken back to that meaning, derived from the type of cloth.

Professionals in the cities, and for that matter the wealthy, didn't dress that way. All their clothes were tailored from manufactured cloth.  They were visibly different.

Manufactured clothing began to come in during the mid 19th Century, but even at that, while it became widely worn, it didn't look exactly the same as well tailored clothing and, also, the average person had very few changes of clothing.  The average farmer, a major demographic section in the US, might have just a couple of clothes including a jacket that he might want to wear on occasions calling for more formal wear.  People were conscious of this, of course, but it also meant that any average male was not going to invest in clothing that couldn't serve more than one purpose, and none of those items were going to have "Jack's Bar & Grill" blazoned across them.

In this environment, the clothing worn by people in towns and cities, particularly in the 1900s forward, really sent a message, and that's important to note.  Also important to note, up into the 1950s, it was possible to move careers of any type, without a formal education, fairly easily.

Going back to a typical American, let's say of 1900, we can see how this entire process has worked, to some degree, fairly easily.  If we take an American of 18 years old, who has grown up on a Mid Western farm, we'll be looking at a fairly typical American. He's probably within easy traveling distance, but real distance, from some mid sized or even big city, and his education, which would have stopped at high school (if it went that far) would have been sufficiently good to enter an office occupation of the era without additional education.  So, if he's the second third son of a family of five, in 1900, he'd be looking at world in which acquiring a farm of his own would be somewhat difficult and so, perhaps, he'd look to the city.

Going into the city, he'd be wearing the sort of rough clothes of his background, and he'd be conscious of it. That wouldn't keep him, however, from finding a clerk's job in some office.  Let's say an insurance office.

Boy clerk in a law office, early 20th Century.

Our subject, let's say, acquires a job in the office, but he looks like a "hay seed" and he knows it.  Probably the fist thing he'll buy is a set of clothes at Sears or Montgomery Ward, which will include a couple of shirts capable of taking a starched collar, and a suit.  Probably just one suit frankly.  And a couple of ties.  Now  he'll look the part of his job, and that would have been the uniform of his office. That it would have been the uniform is clear. And it would have been that, as this office and its owners would want to have made it plain that they were professionals, like lawyers and doctors in town. And the lawyers and doctors in town would have dressed that way because they could, and also to point out that they were successful, not merely people who had drifted in from the country, even if in fact they had drifted in from the country.

 African American lawyer, 1940s.

So, back to our hero, after a few years he'd have moved up to a better position in the little company, and his clothes would have approved a little bit over the same course of time. All the while he would have traveled back and forth to the farm, and he'd want them to know that even though he was the middle son, he was doing fine.  Probably after about a decade he'd have married, and chances are the girl he would have married would have had a similar story of some sort.  We're now in the early 10s.  By the 20s, he'd have had a family, and by the 30s, chances are that one of his kids would be entering the business. That son would enter it, in the 30s, with this standard of dress solidly in place and reinforced by the disaster of the Great Depression.

 Winston Churchill
American novelist, Winston Churchill (not the British politician).  Probably early 1920s. Note how formal he appears, even though this is actually a fairly informal summer suit for the period.  Not too many writers would be dressed like this now, just to go to town.
It wouldn't be until the 50s, or even really the 60s ,when things would begin to change, and our example demonstrates in part why. By that time, the original message being conveyed would have been lost.  By that time, the distinction between past life and current, and urban and rural, would have been nearly completely lost.  At best, a young man of the early 60s would know of his rural ancestors, but those would tend to be just stories.

And you can play this out in any number of ways, and locations as well.  For example, you can easily imagine, for example, a Sicilian immigrant coming in as a child, say perhaps about 15 years of age, alone, into the United States via Ellis Island at this time.  He'd go right to work for some Italian enterprise in New York and even at that tender age he'd shed his immigrant peasant clothing for something more urban as quickly as he could. By the 20s he might own that or another enterprise, and by the 50s his grand children would be completely Americanized and only barely recall his immigrant past. And so on.* 

 Storekeeper, 1937.

Moreover, at that point, education had gone from being uncommon post high school to really common, which came on in a major way following World War Two.  A sense of entitlement crept in.  Looked at that way, our new subject, say in 1965, would have little connection with his great grandfather's life of 1900, and wouldn't even grasp the concept that this fellow had regarded himself as really lucky to get a job clerking in an insurance office. Chance are that he'd look at his father insurance agency as dull and boring, and not something for an educated fellow like himself. And why should he wear a boring business suit, the armor of conformity?  It shouldn't be presumed that the change came in really quickly, as that would be wholly incorrect, but change did come in and over about a 30 year period the former standards on men's wear more or less disappeared.  Women's dress, oddly enough.  Women's dress changed very substantially as well, but to a surprisingly smaller extent in the business context.**

While this was going on, something else was also occurring that would impact dress as well, and as its part of the story, it has to be added in.  It wasn't just that people moved away from a rural or blue collar background, and indeed that was only partially true.  But an increase in wealth after World War Two had a major impact on dress.

As we've already noted, people in the early half of the 20th Century tended to have fewer clothes.  Indeed, my father noted to me once, while I was buying a suit, that a good thing to get is a suit with two pairs of pants. Apparently the last time he'd bought a suit, which had been appreciable time earlier, that was still an option, and apparently it had been a common option. The reason for that was that people repeated their clothing frequently, and having two pairs of pants for one suit made that much more easy to do.  I've never seen this option offered for the sale of a suit, so as they became less common this option must have died out.

Anyhow, prior to the end of World War Two people just had fewer changes of clothes. But the war brought in cotton clothing to an extent that hadn't existed before, and cotton clothing is easily washable.  And the big increase in wealth that was brought on by the end of World War Two and the boom in the consumer economy meant that people could afford to do that.

Not only could they afford to do that, moreover, but the degree to which clothes needed to have an immediate utility declined fairly substantially with the rise of urban centers.

Prior to the war, nearly ever teen had worked in some capacity, and nearly everyone, even the wealthy, had done at least a little manual labor.  Clothing, therefore, wasn't typically ornamental as it couldn't be, that much.  But after the war the extent to which the young were employed only by self option increased.

Concurrent with that, however, was the fact of the recent war itself.  The youngest of those who were conscripted for World War Two were only 28 years old in 1955 (although the oldest were 57 that same year).  There was a large societal experience, therefore, with the war and also with blue collar labor, which had been an important aspect of the war.  As already noted, college availability massively increased following the war, but not everyone aspired to that.  With an increase in wealth, and an accordingly large increase in youthful leisure, for the first time you really had "rebellious youth".

Now, some youthful rebellion has always been around, but the character at this time was really different.  Youth in rebellion, before World War Two, had really been sort of a college demographic thing.  It had popped up in the 1920s, following World War One, and it had expressed it self in one rebellious set in the jazz age culture of that time. I.e, flappers, etc. In another set, it actually expressed itself with the surprisingly large flirtation with Communism among college youth at that time, which oddly enough also had a sartorial expression, particularly with women.  Whitaker Chamber noted that at that time it was easy to spot a Communist woman as they all had the same bobbed hair style, including that affected by his wife when he met her (although she wasn't a Communist, but a different type of Socialist revolutionary).  Some of this continued on into the 1940s, sufficiently enough that Bill Mauldin made it the subject of one his early post World War Two cartoons.

But rebellion at the late teen stage was truly new, and it was informed by the recent war and the heroic status of the American working class.  So, armed with surplus cash, it affected a costume reflecting that, blue jeans, white t-shirts, and leather jackets, all stuff that recalled blue collar work or Army life.

That in turn was the situation when the turbulent 1960s came on, and everything that came on with it occurred.  And that gave us the onset of the decline in clothing standards.  It certainly did not complete it, however.  That took some time. But the decline in the standards in youthful attire were pretty well established by the 1970s, and the pushing of the boundaries in female attire were in swing by then as well.  By the 80s the decline had firmly set in, and by the 1990s the idea that a person should advertise themselves in some fashion was pretty well entrenched.***

Now, then, the second part of the question. Does it matter.

It probably actually does.

Wes, we answered that a bit above, but we'll conclude with it again.  While perhaps it really shouldn't matter, it seems to.

A funny thing about clothing is that it appears to send a message no matter what a person wants to do.  And the fact that it does it appears to cross all cultures at all time, and to be understood by all, even out of context.  It's not really too hard to look back and portrayals of earlier eras and determine who was formally dressed, who was not, and who was a dandy, and to even draw conclusions about those people accordingly.  People seem to do it instinctively.

That doesn't mean that people should dress the same way at all times. Fashions do indeed change, but perhaps the basic messages clothing conveys remain remarkably unchanging.  People who affect a certain fashion due to their occupation generally give off the message that they're in it, and usually they're proud of that.  "Real" clothing sends a message.  Dressing to a fashion that intentionally sends some avant guard message, or worse yet attempts to co-opt the real, usually just looks silly over time.  The "dandies" of one era look silly later on.  People, whether they should or not, will look at women's fashion with a sharper eye than men's, and men who work really hard to achieve a certain trendy look usually look silly even in their own era, at least a bit.  So, perhaps, the really exposed view of fashion some women are taking now ought to be backed off, and maybe everyone ought to pay a little more attention to the basic rules, which doesn't mean that everyone needs to go out and buy a frock coat or something.

Of course, a person could start with themselves.  I wore blue jeans to work most of last week, something that would never have occurred in most law office even twenty years ago.

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*While citations to movies are always risky, this is an area in which some of what's described here can really be demonstrated via movies, and in two ways. One is movies set in their own times that simply accidentally demonstrate the conditions of the day, and another is movies set in a period that do a really good example of illustrating the same thing.  Movies do have to be approach cautiously, however, as even some really respected films really blow it in these regards.

As to the first category, a movie that captures the relationship between presentation of success and dress in American culture prior to World War Two is the film White Heat.  A person wouldn't think of it in that fashion, but if you look at it carefully, it demonstrates this very well. All of the central characters in White Heat are really bad, but they dress increasingly well as the film goes on. They're gangsters, but they don't dress gansta. Why not? They're blue collar and they want to look like they've made it, in the context of their times. And they do.

In the second category, two really good films in this category are The Godfather and The Godfather, Part Two. Part Two does a super job of present dress over time, all the way from about 1900 up to the early 1960s, and the second example I've given above is more or less given in the film, albeit in the context of the "family business" being a criminal enterprise.

**Again, to use well done film as an example, this is interestingly illustrated on the big and small screen.

In terms of movies, the degree to which suit or suit jackets held on is illustrated by the police dramas The French Connection and Shaft. Both show the trend away from it, but they also show how it was hanging on.  Popeye Doyle and Shaft are sort of hip and cool, in context, but they're surprisingly well dressed as well, in a way.

On the small screen, popular television series of the 1970s show this as well.  Shows like Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart show people in office settings in which their dress, while contemporary for the times, is much more conservative, as a rule, than presently, and coat and tie hang on.

***Citing a film again, the view of this sort of change, and the degree to which that view was naive, is perhaps well set out in the film The Graduate.

In that film, Dustin Hoffman plays a recent college graduate trying to find his way, with his parent's generation portrayed as hypocritical. But with an informed sense of history, and now looking back on what is now a very old film, the Hoffman character doesn't come across so well.  He's a privileged youth with a college education, among a generation that had to fight for everything it ever had.  So as a revolutionary, he's sort of a slacker.

And an earlier one yet:

Standards of Dress


Over the weekend, I drove down to Ft. Collins to purchase a couple of suits. "Business Suits" that is.

While I work as a lawyer, I really don't like buying formal wear at all. I'm not sure why, but it may be the peasant in me. I rarely wear suits, and never wear them except in court. A lot of times in court I'll wear a sports coat and tie, although I should probably wear suits more often. While sports coat and tie are very common here, even combined with black jeans and nice cowboy boots, as I will sometimes do, I actually was privy to a female lawyer, who moved in here from elsewhere, complaining about that recently, so perhaps I should forgo that for the most part and try to look a little more "lawyer like".

Anyhow, what a remarkable change in dress standards we have witnessed in the past half century. Up until at least the 1950s, men who worked in town wore suit and tie darned near every day, unless they have a fairly physical job. And they wore suit and tie quite a bit outside of work as well. Photographs as late as the 50s show, for example, men wearing suits just to board aircraft.

This started to change in the 60s, I suppose as a part of that turbulent era, as young males adopted jeans and t-shirts in a conscious, semi-conscious, or unconscious, effort to emulate the "working man", whether they were working men or not. And as the boomers of that era aged, the old clothing standards never really revived. Now it is common really to view sports coats and ties as being fairly dressed up, when they used to be regarded as fairly dressed down.

Taking this back a bit further, I recently watched one of the special features of the DVD version on the new Coen Brothers "True Grit" film. For those who have not seen the film, I highly recommend it. Anyhow, the portion of the special features addressing dress was quite interesting, with the clothing designer noting that for town dress, even though the majority of people in town would have been farmers, she would have expected them to be relatively formally dressed. That's probably fully correct.

As long time readers of this blog, i.e, me, as I'm probably the only reader, this blog is part of an effort, really, to look into the 1910 to 1920 time frame, but with a lot of interest in earlier in later eras. I'd expect the 1910 to 1920 era to have about the same sartorial standards as the earlier era depicted in True Grit, and which continued on for quite some time later. That is, even in that heavily agricultural era, in most of the US, town dress was fairly formal. Rural working dress would not have been of course, but people in town would not normally have been dressed down no matter what their station in life may have been.

Epilogue

Court.

I've recently had a couple of experiences that reminded me of this old post.

One of these was that I was in Court the other day, when a docket call was going on.  A docket call is when parties with various types of cases, usually criminal cases, appear before the court briefly.

When a person appears before the court, they probably ought to try to look sharp.  It makes some sort of impression on everyone, I'm quite sure. But sartorial standards  have fallen so low that it seems many people don't know that, and a few of those people are the lawyers, amazingly enough.

While I was there I noted that a large number of people appearing before the court were in t-shirts.  I suppose that was everyday attire, and that's what they had.  Nonetheless, it doesn't leave the best impression.  It particularly does not of the t-shirts have a vaguely legal theme.  One person had on t-shirt that had the words "Southern Justice" on it, with the scale of justice tipped to one side.  Granted, we aren't in the south, but if you are making an appearance in a criminal case, that's a bad idea.  Another person had one that said something about "Pirate's *****."  It was probably whimsical or even a little risque, but still, pirates were thieves and you probably don't want the court to associate you with them.

At one time, except for the extremely poor, shirt and tie would have been expected for men.  A person might even have risked being dressed down for failing to wear that, save for cases of poverty.  Following that old rule here remains a good idea.

Epilogue II

Traveling  

Another experience that caused me to ponder this a bit recently is that I've been doing a fair amount of traveling, which means that I've been getting a fair amount of airport and airplane time.

If you glance through photos from the 1950s or early 60s, when air travel really took off, of people traveling in airplanes, its a bit of a shock to see how dressed up everyone was.  Men, for example, routinely were in suit and tie.  Servicemen were in their dress uniforms.  Hardly anyone is really dressed down.

Now, just the opposite is true.  I cannot ever personally remember a time when people were not fairly informally dressed in the airport or on airplanes.  Indeed, if I see a man with a tie on, I know he's come right from, or going right to, a meeting.  Indeed, pretty much only business travelers routinely dress in a "dressed up" fashion, with "business casual" being the norm for them.

Recently, however, the level of dress has been amazingly varied.  Some people opt to travel in clothes designed for the gym, I guess, and are really dressed down.  I've travelled plenty of times in airplanes in my jeans, and thought I was comfortably dressed, but I can't imagine wearing trousers designed for the gym on an airplane.  I'd feel self conscious and uncomfortable.

But not as self conscious as I would feel at a store in my pj's, but that's antihero odd trend, mostly exhibited by women.  I'm starting to see a few women in stores wearing their pj's and slippers.  I appreciate people are pressed for time, but nobody is ever that pressed for time.  It looks sloppy and most people don't really want to be seeing non family members in their pj's, particularly in public.  I guess it says something about how informal our era has become that people shopping in their pajamas isn't wholly unusual.  Or just seeing somebody out in public in their pajamas isn't wholly unusual.

Epilogue III

The Clothing of Youth. 

Recently I've also had an odd experience that causes me to recall this thread.

I pass a local high school everyday, and in the course of doing that, I notice some rather interesting clothing styles.

Teenagers in that age range have always given us some interesting clothing trends, to be followed by, or sometimes lead by, people in their early 20s.  For example, people in their 20s gave us all the interesting clothing associated with the Jazz Age, including shorter skirts and raccoon coats.  In the 1950s this age range gave us Levis and t-shirts for people who weren't really working in labor, although most clothing was still pretty conservative.  Photos from the 1930s and 1940s show this age range dressed like adults, which in the years of World War Two and the Great Depression, they were.  The 60s, of course, brought in all sorts of stuff, and when I was in high school we pretty much all wore t-shirts to school.

The oddest high school age trend I've noticed are girls who have adopted the "Furry Lifestyle", going to high school dressed as cats or wolves. That's just weird in my opinion, but some do it every day, even wearing tails.  Very odd.

But that's now what inspired me to write.  Every day when I go by the high school I see one kid who is wearing a suit and tie. Every day.  And he looks perfectly natural in it.  Indeed, I've seen him so often that way, I'd now be shocked if he wasn't dress that way.  Interesting to see that in somebody so young.

Epilogue IV

Manly Dressing. 

Somewhat off topic, but a podcast episode on men's dress on the Art of Manliness. 

Epilogue V.

Clothing at Church. 

Okay, now for one that's again observational, but a bit counterintuitive.

You can fairly easily find, on the net, various gentle reminders by at least Catholic clerics, and probably others, that when people arrive at Churches on Sunday, they perhaps ought to dress up a beyond their usual standards, which as noted is, in the US, a pretty low standard. But you won't find those here locally.  Indeed, looking back to when I was a kid, I can't recall the standards of dress for Sunday Mass being particularly high.  And my recollection is pretty good.

I'm not saying that there was never a year when those attending Mass on Sunday didn't dress up. There may have been, but I can't recall it, and my memory stretches back on that at least to the late 1960s.  People have, in the time I can recall, always worn their regular clothing. So here's a local phenomenon, at least, that counters the trend noted here to an extent. Whey would that be?

I'm not entirely certainly, but I suspect that reflects something about the conditions of the rural West and perhaps something about the demographic I'm recalling.  In an area where a lot of people had very rural jobs, or heavy labor jobs, their clothing may have been their clothing, and that was the way it was. So they wore what they wore.

This isn't to say they wore dirty clothing or anything of the type.  That would not be true.  But, for example, people from ranches wore blue jeans and boots, and a clean shirt.  Men of any walk of life only rarely wore a tie.  School age kids wore what they wore to school, if they went to public school, where there were not uniforms.

Having said this, I suspect that if a person went back further than the 1950s, they'd find a  different situation at work.

Now, having made this observation, I will add a couple.  One thing that I now see at Mass that I never saw when younger was young men wearing shorts.  We didn't have any shorts, and that may be the reason why, but I do wonder if our parents would have approved of that.

And another is that t-shirts have changed over the years, which is interesting. I've written on this before, but t-shirts seem to have their own trend line at Church, at least by my narrow personal observation.  When I was young, we would wear t-shirts to Mass, including the period of time during which I was a university student.  In the 1990s I was seeing a lot of t-shirts, including quite a few of the type with highly rude slogans on them, which really weren't appropriate for Mass, if appropriate for anywhere.  Now, however, that's increasingly uncommon.  T-shirts aren't disappearing, as noted earlier, but young people at Mass do not wear them as much as they used to.  Indeed, I'm seeing a lot of nicer athletic shirts of one kind or another now. T-shirts that do show up, in season, are generally pretty appropriate for general wear.  And very recently I've seen some young people who wear t-shirts that specifically have a religious message, indicating that these shirts were chosen intentionally for the message, making them oddly appropriate as an informal piece of apparel for this setting.

Indeed, in spite of my earlier comments on t-shirts, I somewhat wonder if this all indicates a trend line away from t-shirts.  They're not going to disappear, but they do seem to dominate less of the clothing worn by people than they did only a decade ago.

Epilogue VI.

Clothing at Church. 

But then, on the other hand. . . .

Sometimes, after you write something, you find a reason that you have to reconsider or modify your prior stated item.  And this weekend I happened to observe something that causes me to do that.  It's a minor item, and I've already noted it on the post on hats and caps.  The item is women's head coverings at church, or more specifically the Catholic Mass.

Women at Mass, 1940s.

It was once a rule that women attending Mass, in some localities, had to have their heads covered.  I don't recall this rule personally, and indeed my personal recollection is quite the opposite.  But I was aware that hit had been a rule.  I'd just forgotten it.

In fact, it was further a rule that Catholic Priests, for much of the 20th Century, had to wear a hat while outdoors. Typically that was the typical men's business wear type hats of the time.  I.e., we'd expect a Fedora or a hat of that type. As I understand it, and I may not understand it well, this rule had to do with expressing respect.

This is all largely a thing of the past, which shows our changing views on this topic, but I recalled it as I happened to see two separate families at Mass in which the woman or girls were wearing lace head coverings.  It was practically startling in light of the fact that it is so rare.  Indeed, all of these girls and women were dressed very conservatively.  That shouldn't be read to mean something like Amish, which would be completely false, but simply nicely conservatively dressed.  Indeed, the conservative dress was really working for them, which points out the irony of conservative dress in loose clothing standards times being attention getting, irrespective of its intent.

I was aware that some people have continued on this old practice voluntarily, which isn't to say that I'm making a pitch for the rule to be returned.  Not at all.  I'm merely noting it.  And, by the same token I should note that certain religions have an actual rule requiring daily conservative dress, with strict Orthodox Jews being the most notable.  It's interesting that in their case, this does indeed make their appearance more distinct than in former eras, when many people were somewhat similarly dressed on a daily basis.

Epilogue VII

Men dressing their age 

Just before this update, I posted Pope's "An Essay on Criticism", which is the source of the quote "fools rush in where Angels fear to tread".   I note that, as what I'm about to say is probably foolish.

I was at an event recently which had young people at it.  It was on a really nice day, the first really nice sunny day we'd had for awhile.  It was an outdoor sporting event, but one of those individual sports of skill, as opposed to a team sport.  And its a sport that probably sees a lot more participation from adults than it does from children, but most of the people who engage in it learned the sport as children, as its generally outdoorsy, usually people dress somewhat in that fashion while engaging in it, assuming that they don't have clothing specially made for it, which some do.

Anyhow, while at this a father and son set showed up, which is a gratifying thing to see, but they were both dressed, well. . . sort of like toddlers.

That may sound like a peculiar description, and in part that's because of my age.  Allow me to define it further.  Both father and son (son probably about 10 or 11, father probably 30 something) were wearing baseball caps with the brims completely flat, in the style currently popular with teens.  Both had their hats a bit off kilter directionally as well, which is common with aficionados of that cap genre.  Both were wearing floppy shorts, and both we wearing the brightly colored jersey of some athletic team.  It presented, shall we say, an extremely youthful appearance.

It was also clothing that was generally inappropriate for the activity, although you could get by.  But the odd thing is that it made father and son look like twins separated by a vast gulf of time.

Now, part of my reaction to this is no doubt as this clothing style simply didn't exist when I was young.  Wearing team jerseys was common, and I don't have an objection to it, but the shorts and off kilter cap look would have gotten us beat up when I was a teen, and there's no way that we would have affected that style.  I think it odd looking when I see teens wearing it now, but then teens have always tended, to a certain degree, to angle for odd clothing, although I can't really think of that being the case when I was a teen (maybe we wore badger robes rather than bear robes. . . its' been a long time ago).

Anyhow, while its not apparent to us, Americans have a reputation as being the sloppiest dressed people on the planet, and while its up to people to dress how they want to dress, stuff like this sort of contributes to that.  And at some age, you just can't get by dressing like a youngster anymore.

In the theme of this blog, I flat out do not think this occurred with men at all up until fairly recently.  Men always dressed like adults.  If you heard criticism of a man dressing under his age, it was for trying to affect one of the adult style of the era. So, for example, if you had a guy in his 50s wearing chains and keeping his shirt unbuttoned, in the 1970s, he'd get a verbal busing behind his back, no doubt.  A guy that age probably couldn't have gotten away dressing in a Zoot Suit in the 40s, for that matter. But to dress as "youthful" as we see some adults dress now would not only spark some degree of ridicule, but you'd really have people talking about you in a former era, if you were a man.  With women this seems to be markedly less of a trend now, and women still have the age old social control of getting criticism from their fellows if they dress too much like a teen, when they're not.  So we don't really find the phenomenon of women dressing way down in age to be common.

Epilogue VIII

It turns out that essays of this type are more common than I'd thought, or that I would have guessed.  A website I stumbled on has an entire series of them, basically cast in the vein of assistance.

An essay related to this topic, Four Reasons To Learn Style Rules.

And, Style, Not Sin, Part 1

Style, Not Sin, Part 2.. 

An essay on shoes from the same source; Style Starts With Shoes.

What probably is not obvious to folks is that in spite of what we'd think, even in the US which has next to no clothing rules left, people still judge each other by appearances.  People don't think that this is the case, but it tends to be to a surprising degree.

Epilogue IX

Regarding the courtroom item noted above, I'm not the only lawyer to have noted this, the Bow Tie Lawyer has commented on it recently as well. 

Well, okay, what else is there to say on this?

Not much.

But a few observations.  

Given as we've focused so intently on the 1910s here recently, it's become impossible not to note how well dressed people in certain settings were.  Some of this indicates the presence of money, of course, but not all of it.  And it goes right down to the teenage level.

For example, we earlier posted this photograph of teenager Helen Roberts at the launching of a ship:


Miss Roberts was a Governor's daughter, to be sure, but she's turned out to a degree that would frankly shame most people her age today.  She's practically at fashion model level, to a certain extent, and looks comfortable in her clothes as well.  Could most teenagers pull this off now?  Shoot, would most adults?  I suspect if a ship was launched around here, which a ship will not be, there's be just as great of chance people would turn out in polo shirts and shorts.

Isolated instance?  Well, consider this handsome family again.


The back row in that photo is in their teens. 

I'm sure when I was that age I wouldn't have known how to wear a suit.  Indeed, I must have been about 22 or 23 when I first had a suit, which was occasioned by the need to go to a wedding.  It took awhile, as odd as it might seem, to really feel comfortable wearing one, and I certainly don't wear one every day.

Or consider the folks in this UW student newspaper from 1919:




Could that many UW students, even if they were on the student council, turn out dressed like that now?  I'll bet not.

So is the slide into permanent casual clothing a bad thing?  That can be debated.  And perhaps when it is the argument ought to be on how sloppy the clothing might really be. Back to the church example again, I've noted a few people who are neatly presented but who always wear t-shirts, but their t-shirts have a religious theme.  I couldn't say that those people are really poorly dressed, actually, just dressed casually.

One thing I'm curious about is how we compare with other European cultures, accepting that we're a European culture.  Having never been to Europe, I can't say but I've heard it claimed that we compare unfavorably.

Anyhow, part of this past week I've been in a proceeding setting and therefore wearing suits.  It's reminded me of how few suits I have (four, and one has a wiped out pair of pants, so I need to replace that one. . . and another is ill fitting, so only two I really wear).  That's pretty remarkable for a man in one of my lines of work and I ought to address that.  Indeed, the fact that I haven't shows the extent to which modern trial room lawyers don't spend that many consecutive days in court that often. When I do, I generally get by with the suits I have plus sports coats and dress trousers, which allows me to get pretty far.  Seeing so many lawyers suited up this week has reminded me of what an exception we generally are, in that setting.

Indeed, outside of sportscasters, clergy and lawyers, who really wears suits routinely?


The May 16, 1919 Casper paper announced the arrival of tailors in town.

There aren't any now.

Thursday, May 16, 2019

May 16, 1919: New Tailors in Town


This is related to another thread that's in the works, but I didn't put this item up for all the interesting news of the day, although there is a lot. . . Greek hopes in Anatolia. . . Finns advancing on Petrograd. . . failings hopes of Germans and of Brewers. . .

Nope, the thing that drew my eye is the story about two tailors buying a shop in town.

There aren't any tailors here now.

Some Gave All: A La Memoire Des Enfants De Grivesnes Morts Pour La Patrie

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A La Memoire Des Enfants De Grivesnes Morts Pour La Patrie, France.



A memorial in Grivesnes to its World War One dead.  This is an unusual memorial as the figure is painted, which is quite uncommon.

Accidentally getting an argument right for the wrong reasons. Alyssa Milano discovers the connection between sex and babies.

New Orleans wedding party, 1909.  Alyssa Milano urges a return to the past. . . without realizing it.


Every once and awhile, somebody comes out screaming onto the public stage in support of something and, accidentally, makes a really good point in favor of the opposing position, even if they're too dim to realize it.

Such is the case for actress Alyssa Milano's call for a "sex strike".

1940s wedding.  The bride wears a cross indicating that even on that day, there's something taking the position of place over everything else.

I know nothing personally about Ms. Milano.  I never saw a single episode of what are apparently her big televised acting efforts, Charmed and Melrose Place, and I'm not interested in viewing them either.  A review of her Internet Movie Database file reveals that the only movie she's been in that I've seen her in is the horrifically bad Commando.  She would have been a child actress at the time that move was afflicted upon the world, so she cannot be blamed for it.  Otherwise, I've not seen a single thing she's been in, which is at least somewhat remarkable for somebody who is apparently a well known actress (and I knew her name, so she's at least somewhat well known).

I can't help but be amused, somehow, by the fact that in 1995 she was in a film called Deadly Sins, and now finds herself sort of accidentally advocating for and against the sin of lust.  In that film she apparently played a Catholic schoolgirl, which in fact she once was, putting her in the class of those who benefited from a Catholic education they've at least somewhat compromised while achieving entertainment fame, although she retains enough of her faith to have several tattoos that are Catholic themed apparently.

I've come to wonder, frankly, if the Hollywood set can be blamed for their views in general.  A review of film stars since the introduction of film shows that class to be, frankly, incredibly screwed up in unusual numbers.  Just recently, for example, I ran something here on Mary Pickford, the early silent movie star.  A review of her life reveals a rather sad character, for example.

As part of the messed up nature of Hollywood figures seems to be an affinity for "activist" politics of the day.  Something about the fake nature of what they do, I suspect, causes people in the entertainment industry to adopt such causes to validate themselves rather than because they've deeply thought them out and really believe them to their core.  I generally assume that if you catalog the current activist political agendas you can attribute a belief in them to nearly any actor or actress. Indeed, when exceptions exist, it's always worth looking at what that particular person's audience is, as often their views express that of their audience.

And that anyone would take any Hollywood figure seriously on serious interpersonal relationships is baffling.  Even Doris Day, who was featured here yesterday, was married four times while retaining a squeaky clean image (one marriage ended with a spouses death).

For that reason, I'm always amazed when people cite any Hollywood figure on anything at all.  Did that actor support our war effort in World War Two?*  Of course he or she did. He or she was an actor.  Does the actor support this or that currently left of center political cause?  Almost certainly, he or she is an actor.  If tomorrow it became super hip and trendy to support armed intervention in Central Asia to create a Kurdish state. . . . well of course, actor again.

Indeed, I never really take any Hollywood figures politics very seriously unless they stray so blisteringly far from the main stream of activist politics de jour such that they can't possibly be unthinkingly adopted.  John Ford's pretty blunt set of views, back in the Golden Age of Hollywood, were no doubt really his. Currently, James Wood, who has a really right wing set of views, probably is really right wing in a unique way.

Alyssa Milano?  I dunno. . . from her Wikipedia entry it appears she has checked of the boxes on the usual Hollywood "I'm an actress/actor so must have these views" box.  Some are probably very sincerely held and noble.  Others are just the regular run of the mill left of center Hollywood stuff.

Milano was raised as a Catholic but has obviously felt free to depart from serous tenants in the Faith in her public positions, something that's common with Catholics obtaining public notoriety in entertainment or politics.  Being a fully observant Catholic in the Hollywood environment takes real guts, much more than supporting left of center causes, and its hard to find real practicing Catholics in the entertainment industry.**  For one thing, it impairs their ability to make a living, and it has for a long time.  From an inside baseball sort of view, therefore, most of the "raised Catholic" and now an entertainment figure, figures, strike those of us who stick to our views, no matter how imperfectly, as sell outs really.  That's a disclaimer, I suppose, but I don't think that diminishes my following point.

As anyone who has tracked the news recently can tell, the results of the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 are rapidly coming to a head and, currently, there's good reason to believe the decision will fall.***  That it was severely deficient was always obvious from the very first.  No matter what a person believes on the topic of abortion, the legal and scientific reasoning of the decision was always obviously deficient.  Even if a person believes 100% in the court's comments about a right to privacy being applicable as applied from its prior decision of Griswald v. Connecticut, the decision doesn't make very much sense.  The logic train derails pretty severely in the decision when it takes the position that a right to privacy applies to women such that a third living being (which scientifically you can't escape from) created by two living beings but only in the one means that the third living being can be terminated up to a certain number of weeks but not thereafter.  That's just a weird decision.

The court could have decided that 1) women have a right to privacy; and 2) women and men have a fundamental right in what occurs to the offspring they create (removing men from the equation, when it takes a man to create the situation, was odd in the extreme); and 3) a Court can't decide what lives to take and which to terminate outside of the commission of a crime ; and 4) therefore leave the matter to state law.  Or it could have held that the natural law meant that all lives that haven't committed a crime are just as protected by the Constitution as all others, which would have made a great deal more political, legal and philosophical sense, but the Court at that time was operating for the time being on a liberal agenda.

Or it could have for practical reasons as well as jurisprudential ones found that this topic was outside of the rational scope of the Court's defining powers and regarded it as a judicial overstep, leaving it to the states. This is the position the liberal magazine The New Republic took in looking at the topic in the 1980s, when was advocating for Roe to be overruled on liberal voting grounds.  That's also surprisingly close to the position that Ruth Bader Ginsberg has indicated in comments that she actually holds.  That doesn't mean she'll vote to overrule the decision, but she pretty clearly feels that the Court in fact overstepped in its decision and should have gone against "Roe", rather than for her.

As an aide, FWIW, "Roe", the pseudonym for the Plaintiff in the action never had an abortion and in fact, fairly horrified by it later, became a Catholic convert anti abortion activist.  I can't, off hand, think of a major protagonist in a Supreme Court case such as this who, after winning and having a major case named after them, disavowed the results.  Of course, she wasn't all that vested in it in the first place and in fact was basically used by the organization that brought the case in her nom de guerre.  But her personal stances took a remarkably opposite path to that of Milano's.

The public has never bought off on the logic of Roe v. Wade and over time the views on abortion, bolstered by science and the slow leaking of the reality of what that entails had caused a shift to where the majority of the American public is against it.  Only in real bastions of left wing political thought is the contrary true, and much like most arguments that have jumped the shark, there's a spasm of political reaction in those areas.

On legislative action, quite a few legislatures are now acting to get as close to banning abortions as they dare, and are directly and intentionally pushing on the line with an eye towards getting the issue back in front of the Supreme Court.  Recently Georgia became the fourth state across the county to enact a fetal heartbeat aspect of the law such that abortions are banned after a fetal heartbeat.  This has spawned a left wing reaction that's really grisly if you stop to think about it in that their reaction is a full on acknowledgement of the Pro Life position that "abortion stops a beating heart".  It's a pretty bloody argument.

Into this fray steps Alyssa Milano, who weirdly taking a line out of Lisastratta had called for a sex strike. We quote:
Actress Alyssa Milano ignited social media with a tweet Friday night calling for women to join her in a sex strike to protest strict abortion bans passed by Republican-controlled legislatures.
The former star of “Charmed” and “Melrose Place” urged women in her tweet to stop having sex “until we get bodily autonomy back.” Her tweet came days after Georgia became the fourth state in the U.S. this year to ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected — about six weeks into a pregnancy and before many women know they’re pregnant.
And we add:
“We need to understand how dire the situation is across the country,” Milano told The Associated Press on Saturday. “It’s reminding people that we have control over our own bodies and how we use them.”
She noted that women have historically withheld sex to protest or advocate for political reform. She cited how Iroquois women refused to have sex in the 1600s as a way to stop unregulated warfare. Most recently, she noted that Liberian women used a sex strike in 2003 to demand an end to a long-running civil war.
Milano received support from fans and fellow actress Bette Midler joined her in also calling for a sex strike with her own tweet. But both liberals and conservatives also lampooned her idea, with conservatives praising her for promoting abstinence and liberals saying she was pushing a false narrative that women only have sex as a favor to men.
Oh, the rich irony.

Austrian cavalrymen and their girlfriends, early World War One (November 1915).  These girls were no doubt literally the girls next store, or likely from the same village, as these two men.  They're also pretty good examples of the girls next store in a lot of ways, real ways.  They're both pretty stout, which frankly a lot of American girls now are (and which is surprising in context) and they're not fantastic beauties, which most people really aren't, while they're not hideous either.  Not the plastic model of girls that Hugh Hefner's Playboy encouraged people to believe were ready to fall out of their clothing at a moments notice. 

One of the byproducts of pharmaceutical birth control is that it made the Playboy Dream true.  Playboy, starting in 1953, promoted the fantasy that all women were; 1) sterile, 2) had huge boobs, and 3) wanted sex all the time and with anyone (or at least the reader of the magazine).  The girl next store went, basically, from being the girl next store whom you might marry, which meant a lifetime of dedication to her and the result of the marriage, to being a giant breasted dimwit who wanted sex now and who couldn't produce offspring.  Irrespective of whatever the original purpose or intent of the drug's developments may have been, the fact of the matter is that it made at least one part of the Playboy Dream true. . .  the sterility part.  Over time, the second and third parts have had pushes to become true as 1) women and girls are expected to put out, and sold that message in everything from magazines to sitcoms, and 2) the medical industry has made it possible for women of average and normal proportions to be built like Marilyn Monroe or Claudia Cardinale irrespective of their genetics, and many chose to undergo the knife to achieve that result.

As part of that came the bizarre failure to realize that sex causes people.

These people again.  They're married and they have. . . wee little people.  Gee, I wonder how that happened?

As bizarre as that may sound, that's an absolute in the contemporary Western World view of sex.  It has nothing to do with people, or at least making people.  It might be about fulfillment, or release, or your view of who you are, or even define you identify, but a natural process resulting in people?  How could that be true?  Indeed, contemporary American popular culture is as dim on that point as extraordinarily primitive cultures which, and rarely, have no acknowledged connection between procreation and creation of people.

And here Milano steps in to accidentally, and unbeknownst to herself, make that very point.

Abstain from sex?  Go ahead.

If more people did, there'd be a lot fewer abortions.  Indeed, if people returned to the view of sex that predated the Sexual Revolution, not all "accidental" pregnancies would go away, but there would be a lot fewer of them and the view of them would necessarily be a lot different.  So by emphasizing sex she's actually exactly emphasizing the right thing, but doesn't realize it.

Not surprisingly, a lot of her progressive fellow travelers are horrified.  Acknowledging that connection is the last thing on earth they'd want to do.  Its exactly what they have worked so hard to suppress.  But the point, no matter how poorly made, is in fact a good one.

Let's follow the logic train on this one.

Milano is maintaining that women can abstain from sex.  Horror of horrors, if that is correct, the entire post 1970s ethos that now reigns on televised slop like The Big Bang Theory or Friends that women must have it, let alone men, pretty much all the time would be. . . wrong.

That would suggest that the entire history before that that women didn't have to and "good girls" shouldn't, might. . . be based on something.

One of the something's that would be based on, even if Milano doesn't realize it, is that sex results in pregnancy. The huge achievement of the prostitution of modern Western females was delinking any concept of pregnancy and sex. That was a huge achievement in that movement and its succeeded to such an extent that at the current time people even dispute the existence of their genetically programmed genders.  People even identify themselves by this point with their sexual urgings, something that we noted just the other day is a new development, and not a positive one.  Milano here put the link back in, even if she doesn't mean to.  Or maybe subconsciously something penetrated and subconsciously she does. The argument really is that sex without restraint or societal limits gets women pregnant, those pregnancies are bad, and therefore abortion is necessary. To prove the point, she argues don't have sex. That will in fact work, but not for the reasons noted, as if there's no sex there'll be no pregnancies and the original societal restraints were right all along.

Indeed Milano's position fully implies that abortions are the result of sex outside of marriage.  Milano is calling on women everywhere to do a sex boycott, but that seems to imply, no doubt intentionally, that married women have the exact same interest here that unmarried women engaging in sex do. But that's pretty clearly not the case.

All along the hardcore feminist movement has made a practice on dumping on married women in general, but here the lid starts to come off of that argument.  The overwhelming majority of abortions are conducted on unmarried women, not married women.  This suggest their must be sisterly solidarity on this point, but the fact is that married women have no real interest here of any kind.  

In fact, a decreasing number of unmarried women do.  As examined in a post on this blog earlier, the destruction of the social norms has slowly worked their recreation, and the societal hip and cool have come around to defining common law spouses as "partners". The relationship may not be exactly the same, but it's pretty darned close, suggesting that what ultimately occurs is that male and female relationships, not matter how damaged by a disastrous pornographic experiment, revert to the human norm.

As that's occurred, while there remain a large number of abortions, even women (and quite frankly often girls) have come around to viewing abortion as pretty abhorrent.  That demonstrates that the arguments about it have essentially failed at this point.  Young women, and girls, who proceed on to full term are picking up a big task, and often spend a fair amount of effort hoping for some stable relationship with a man, but that they pick up the indicates that in part they may have been fooled by the delinking of sex and procreation, but they aren't blind to the larger implications.  It's also suggest that the Cosmopolitan/Playboy argument that children ought not to ever enter the picture has been overridden by basic human nature in which people actually like children.

So Milano, part of the Me Too Movement, demonstrates how that movement gets back around to the standards of the past while desperately seeking to avoid their implications or that they even existed. 

Which doesn't mean that they didn't or that those standards weren't correct.

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*Before people assume that this is a screed against the "Hollywood Left", let me note that one actor who is common cited as being an "American Hero" fits into the category of "I don't get it" for me, that actor being John Wayne.

I like a fair number of John Wayne movies.  I don't like them all, but I really don't get why he's lionized in the fashion.

John Wayne played Sgt. Styker in the Sands of Iwo Jima.  He wasn't Sgt. Stryker.



Indeed, he wasn't in the military at all during World War Two.

I know that there are apologist on this but it's pretty hard to accept that any major figure who didn't make it into service, if of service age, during the Second World War wasn't at least willing to avoid it.

FWIW, I feel the same way about conservative citations to Clint Eastwood, who did serve in the Army during the Korean War.  So he did, so what?  That doesn't make him a political luminary.

**Oddly, one exception to the rule are women who have been married to or dated Tom Cruise.

Cruise was raised as a Catholic and its claimed he at one time considered becoming a Priest.  He of course, in the Hollywood fashion, has abandoned his Catholicism and has taken up Scientology, a religion that's popular in Hollywood.  But two of his former wives and one of his former girlfriends returned to their Catholic faiths after being in relationships with Cruise.  That statistic is odd enough that a person can't really dismiss it.

Another example form the Scientology fold would be Leah Remini, who was a Scientologist while a prominent actress but who not only left it and returned to the Catholic faith she last experienced as a young child, but who became an anti Scientologist.

A remarkable exception is Neal McDonough, who is not only an observant Catholic, but openly so and who has been frank that his Catholicism has hindered his movie career.  He keeps on keeping on anyhow.

And other Protestant and Catholic examples can be found. Shia LaBeouf became a devout Protestant after playing one in Fury.  Some actors and actresses are more open about it than others.  One surprising entertainment figure who is pretty open about it is model Kate Upton, who had a cross tattooed on the web of her hand after being pressured about wearing a cross at a photo shoot.  Upton is principally famous for being a very chesty Swimsuit model but in her private life she's openly Christian (she's an Episcopalian) and while she's pretty clearly engaged in the modern rationalizations that allow for conduct that isn't Christian, she's recently married and had a baby, showing she gets a link that Milano apparently does not.

***Since I first typed this out the State of Alabama has passed a law which squarely takes on abortion and will undoubtedly go to at least one of the Federal Circuit Courts.

Wednesday, May 15, 2019

Lex Anteinternet: Rerum Novarum

Lex Anteinternet: Rerum Novarum:

Published 128 years ago today.

May 15, 1919 The Winnipeg General Strike, the Greco Turkish War commences.

A more localized strike in Winnepeg, Manitoba  that commenced a few days prior spread to being a complete working class strike on this day in 1919.  It would become one of the largest sustained labor strikes in Canadian history.

The world was slipping into an economic depression, one now largely forgotten, and surprisingly brief, but in the immediate politically tense post war situation, a serious event indeed.

Also serious, Greece landed troops in the Smyrna, on the Turkish coast.

Greek troops landing on Smyrna.

An intent to land had been declared the day prior and the action was supported by the Allies.

The city had a large Greek population as did many areas of Turkey at the time.  Like many of the European states prior to the end of World War Two, Turkey contained significant ethnic enclaves including Greek ones, reflecting that Turkey itself had once been a Greek speaking and culturally Greek domain.  It's primarily Greek status had ended with the fall of Constantinople to the invading Ottomans in 1453 but large Greek populations remained.

The Ottoman Empire itself had come to a near end with the Central Power defeat in World War One. The Allies were sympathetic to national claims in Turkey and the Ottoman Empire was being dismantled.  As part of that, Greek claims in Turkey were received sympathetically.

With in a few days, the Greek beachhead in Turkey would expand to the entire province that the city was in, a significant expansion of the operation.  

The landing is the practical starting date for the Greco Turkish War, a war that initially had strong Allied support and which supported extensive Greek claims in Turkey.  Indeed, the war effort was aided by the fact that other Allied powers, including Italy and the United Kingdom, occupied parts of Anatolia and Turkish islands off of the Turkish coast. The initial goals were to partition Anatolia leaving the domain of the Turks much smaller than is presently the case, and which would have not only left a very large portion of it under Greek control, but which would have also left substantial coastal island areas under Italian control, but also some areas under Armenian control and possibly even the creation of a Kurdish state.

In its greatly weakened state Turkey did poorly in the war at first and this vision of a diminished Turkey appeared likely to come into existence.  A treaty to that effect was drafted between the warring powers but neither Greece nor the Ottoman Empire ratified it.  The war would spark support of the young Turkish nationalist who displaced the Ottoman Empire, which fell prior to the war concluding.  The year after the war's full conclusion the Turkish parliament would abolish the caliphate, and the political regime that had come into existence in 1299 would end.

By that time, the Turks were on the advance in the war, which Turks regard as the Turkish War of Independence.  Rather than the treaty that had been negotiated but not ratified, the end result was much more favorable to Turkey which achieved its present borders.  As part of that treat, a massive population exchange was entered into in which Greece and Turkey exchanged their respective ethnic populations and approximately 1,000,000 Greeks whose homes had been in Anatolia left it.  The practical result was, therefore, that a Greek population that dated back to the Byzantine Empire was effectively nearly completely removed, although small Greek populations remain in Turkey to the present day.


In Philadelphia, a Military Police unit paraded, including its mounted officers.

I wonder how many people, other than me, still use these?


Hand drill.

I have no idea how old it is.  It was in my father's tool set.  It may have been in his father's tool set.

It still works.


I use it when I'd rather not string an electrical cord some place.  It works fine.  When I was a junior high student, we actually learned how to drill with these, but I'll bet that is no longer the case.

And in the same week


Doris Day.

One of the cleanest voices in American music, she amazingly remained a fresh voice from the 40s through the 50s, a period of immense change in American music.  I always think of her signature song being the World War Two era Sentimental Journey, but perhaps more people now associate her with Que Sera Sera, which recently enjoyed an odd resurgence thanks to an incredibly creepy Samsung television ad.  Defined by her voice and her appearance, her life was somewhat more turbulent, but not the absurd extent that some entertainment personalities tend to be.

While Day's personal life was a bit dramatic, she was married four times, although during that period she was widowed once, she wouldn't compromise her image on the movie screen even thought that hurt her career in the 1960s.  She turned down the role of Mrs. Robinson in The Graduate, which in retrospect absolutely seems like the right decision.  Indeed, while few will now admit it, The Graduate now seems absurdly dated and even a parody of the values it it is supposed to both represent and lampoon, while Day's earlier films such as the The Man Who Knew Too Much seems more contemporary.

She was 97.


Tim Conway.

Tim Conway was a comic genius who came out of radio.  He rose up to national fame in McHale's Navy and had hit and miss television and movie success after that.  His real genius came through in the Carol Burnett Show in which his performances were often so funny that his colleagues could not restrain themselves from laughing during them.  Various skits from that show have gone on to be individual legends, with my favorite being the reluctant Japanese Kamikaze pilot.

In his personal life Conway was a devout, but acknowledgedly not perfect, Catholic.  Baptized and raised as a Romanian Orthodox Christian (his mother was Romanian Orthodox), he converted to Catholicism when he was introduced to it by a girlfriend.  In his career his religious values, which he held strongly, reflected themselves in that he never made use of foul language or off color humor at any point, while remaining unquestionably hugely funny.

He was 85.