Showing posts with label North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Show all posts
Showing posts with label North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Show all posts

Saturday, March 5, 2022

Wars and Rumors of War, 2022.

 

Ukrainian soldier with AKM.

February 11, 2022

Russia v. Ukraine

Everything has the feel right now of waiting for an inevitable Russian invasion of Ukraine.

But how far will the Russians go, and what does that mean?  We really don't know, assuming of course it happens.

And if Russia takes all of Ukraine, how long will the third guerilla war against the Russians in a century last?

And what will the much threatened sanctions amount to?

The US, we'll note, has told American citizens to leave the country.

February 17, 2022

Russia v. Ukraine

The Russians claimed to have withdrawn some troops from Crimea, the US says this isn't so.

The Russians have claimed to find mass graves of executed ethnic Russians in the Donbass, the Ukrainians say that isn't so.

The Russians also claim that they were shelled by Ukrainian artillery, which the Ukrainians also deny.

Arms of some sort continue to arrive in Ukraine from the west, although what's being shipped isn't clear. The US has been flying USAF drones over the country and not hiding it, which is interesting.

February 18, 2022

Russia v. Ukraine

Artillery exchanges are in fact occurring in the Eastern Ukraine.

February 19, 2022

Russia v. Ukraine

Russian separatist in the Donbass region have ordered a general mobilization of all men capable of bearing arms on the baloney pretext that they fear a Ukranian invasion.

While making guesses in this context is difficult, my guess is that this is the beginning of the false flag operation that's been predicted, and the war will commence shortly.

February 21, 2022

According to the US, the orders to launch an invasion have been given to Russian field commanders.

France has been engaging in telephonic shuttle diplomacy between the US and Russia in hopes of avoiding a war.  It seems like the current status of this is that the US has proposed a summit if Russia doesn't invade.

This raises the question if what is occurring is an intentional variant of the Sudetenland crisis.  Ie., Putin may have sparked this run up to an invasion with the thought that the west would bargain the Donbass, Crimea, and NATO status for Ukraine, away, rather than to risk a war.

February 21, 2022

Putin spoke, blaming the US in part for the situation, and declaring the breakaway provinces of Ukraine occupied by Russian surrogates to be independent states. The Russians are sending troops into them as "peacekeepers".

Effectively, at type of invasion is now occurring.

February 24, 2022

Russia v. Ukraine

Russia has invaded the Ukraine, but the full nature and extent of that action is not yet clear.

Air and missile strikes commenced yesterday in the early morning hours.  Reports from Ukraine are that Russian troops crossed the border in the north and the south.

Several NATO countries have invoked Article 4, requiring a consultation.

Just yesterday, FWIW, former President Donald Trump was praising Putin as a master strategist.  Others are wondering if the now elderly Putin has become mentally unhinged.  This is likely to result not only in a Ukrainian defeat, but the economic destruction of Russia.

Yesterday, Putin, prior to launching the invasion, was threatening to use his nuclear arsenal if western nations interfered with his assault on Ukraine.  In a televised broadcast, he dressed down one of his own intelligence chiefs, who was clearly stunned by the treatment.

There's been a lot of speculation on why Putin would take an action that's guaranteed to be a disaster for the Russian economy, with speculation ranging from he just doesn't get it, to he just doesn't care.  The latter is probably the case.  The Russian economy is in an increasingly distressed state and with a change in the US administration, Putin no longer has some sort of friend in office in the west.  Ukraine has been moving increasingly towards the west in its orientation.  Putin would reassemble all of the old pieces of the Russian Empire into his new one if he could, and this was likely, by his calculation, the last chance he had to do so. What remains unknown at this hour is if he'll grab pieces of Ukraine and push for it to bargain with him, or simply overrun the entire country.

What also isn't known is the degree to which this may prove to be a bloody fight.  The Russian Army is frankly not all that great, but the Ukrainian Army is a former Soviet one as well.  If not a peer to peer fight, which it isn't due to at least Russian air assets, it may be closer to a peer to peer fight than generally suspected.  And the Russians will receive years and years of guerilla warfare within the country, and probably now out into Russia as well, as a result.

February 25, 2022

The Russo Ukrainian War.


Situation as of February 25, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

One complete day of fighting has now occurred.

Ukraine is a large country, and the size of the respective military forces is actually in their balance, except in the air.  Having said that, the Russians have not done as well as expected, and the Ukrainians are putting up a real fight.  They heavily resisted the Russian capture of Chernobyl, albeit unsuccessfully, and wiped out an airborne attack on an airport very near Kyiv.

The reporting on advances themselves, I should note, has been bad.  From most of the television reporting, it's impossible to tell the actual state of the war at any one time.

The Ukrainians have ordered a full mobilization which would, if fully carried out, put an additional 1,000,000 men in uniform.  Yesterday, the Ukrainian government issued 10,000 rifles to civilians in Kiev.  The Ukrainian parliament has passed a right for civilians to keep and bear arms.

Large protests broke out in Russian in over 60 Russian cities yesterday over their own country's actions in commencing an invasion of a neighbor,  Over 1,000 Russians were arrested.

All three of Wyoming's Congressional delegates condemned the attack, which means notably that Senators Barrasso and Lummis have now joined a position regarding Russian behavior that Congressman Cheney held for months.  Having said that, a staffer of one of the Senators seemed headed towards neutrality until his employer came out with condemnation.   The positions were notably much stouter than that taken by Elsie Stefanik, who replaced Cheney in her role in the House.  Setfanik, who also condemned the attacks, stoutly and fairly absurdly blamed them on President Biden.  Her view however is a minority one in the current politics of the time, with this being one thing, so far, both parties seem unified on.

China blamed the US for the Russian invasion, not surprisingly.

Heavy sanctions are rolling onto Russia, which is a petrostate with an otherwise primitive economy.

February 26, 2021

Situation as of February 26, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

The Russians are now in Kyiv

They have not taken it and Ukrainian resistance is reported as fierce.

Without really saying as much, western military analysts expected the Russians to take Kyiv on the first day of the invasion. That Russian troops are in it now is very bad for Ukraine, but also demonstrates that the military advance is much slower than anticipated.  Indeed, Russian forces have been underperforming and Ukrainian ones over performing so far.

Ukraine still faces, of course, long odds.

The Russian Navy took the tiny island of Snake Island which has been Ukranian territory since the Second World War.  It's claimed by Romania as well.  The island was occupied by border guards.  The Russian ship identified itself as that, and demanded the surrender of the border guards occuping it. After a slight delay, they replied "Russian ship, go fuck yourself".  All thirteen border guards were killed in the ensuing bombardment and occupation of the island.

The island is off of Odessa.

More and more it appears that Russia intends to take Ukraine west of the Dneiper.

NATO is deploying troops to its eastern boundaries.

US paratroopers deploying to Latvia.

The Netherlands are sending 200 antiaircraft missiles to Ukraine.

The US Administration is seeking $6.4B in aid to Ukraine, half of which is for military equipment.

Japan is considering joining in on the sanctions.  Australia has.

February 27, 2022

Situation as of February 27, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

Fighting rages on iside of Kyiv.  The Russians have entered Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city.   For those familiar with the old Russian spellings, this is the city of Kharkov.  They have not taken it, but rather are now engaged in fierce street fighting.

As the map shows, they've' also advanced down on Kyiv on both bank of the Dneiper and in the south, they've launched a spearhead across the Dneiper.  While recent US assessments have been that their advance, which as been remarkably slow, was slowing down more, it now appears to be picking up speed and becoming much more coordinated.

In the south, moreover, this would suggest that they in fact intend to take the entire country, not just the territory east of the Dneiper.

Yesterday Russian websites were subject to a cyber attack, with at least one hackers group openly announcing they were targeting the Russian government.

Today Putin has declared western sanctions "illegitimate" and put his nuclear forces on special status, a fairly meaningless species of armed tantrum in context.

February 28, 2022

Situation as of February 28, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

There have been signficant gains by the Russians in he south over the lsat day, an area which is receiving little in the way of reporting.  In an area in the east, a Sovieet advance of yesterday was repulsed and the Ukranians recovered ground.

The southerin advance is, from a military position, extremely worrisome as it appears set to link with Russian forces to the east, and be well positioned to advance up the right bank of the Dneiper and sever the country in two.

Fighting remains fierce in Kharkiv and Kyiv.  Photos from Kharkiv showing civilians dead in the streets with water and groceries they were trying to bring home before Russian artillery killed them have been published.

The US has increased its state of readiness given yesterday's declaration that Russian nuclear forces were going on high alert.

Russian markets are tanking.

The world's largest airplane, the An-225, was destroyed in the fighting at the airport that's been contested outside of Kyiv.

The ruble is an a free fall.

The Russian stock exchange has closed.

The agreed to discussions beteween Ukraine and Russia have commenced.

February 28, cont:


Situation as of February 28, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

Updated map, showing Russian coastal advances, but much less overall territorial control in the south than earlier map.

Switzerland has joined the EU in its sactions.

March 1, 2022


Situation as of March 1, 2022, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

On todays' sitaution map, the Russians regained some ground they'd lost yesterday in the South, but also lost some ground they had taken.  They may be withdrawing in the south from the left bank of the Dneiper.  Their forces that had linked with rebel areas of the Donbas were cut off again.

A massive Russian convoy is reported north of Kyiv.

Putin is reportedly becoming irate with the slow Russian progress accodring to Russian insiders and threatening to launch a more devestating attack.

This would suggest that the offensive used limited, if signficant, resources and that the Russians are underperforming.

Hungary, while a NATO member, announced it will not allow arms to cross its territory to enter Russia.  Hungary's president is a Putin ally.

Slate has an article analysing the Russian offensive and concluding the Russian army is just bad.  You heard it here first.

March 1, cont.

The Russians have not achieved air superiority, their advance has stalled again, some Russian troops have run out of food and feul, and some have even surrendered.

At this point they've committed 80% of their pre invasion mustered force.

March 2, 2022


Situation as of March 2, 2022, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

Todays' situation is much like yesterday's  The Russian reestablished their coastal link up with a breakaway region of the Donbass after having achieved that yesterday and then having lost it.  They continue to struggle to take Kyiv and Kharkiv, but have not.  They've now made an advance to a city northeast of Kyiv.

March 3, 2022

Situation as of March 3, 2022, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

The Russians continue to advance.  The Ukranian Black Sea port city of Kherson in the south has fallen, being the first major Ukranian city to fall.  Still, the amazing thing is that it wasn't occupied by the Russians on the first day of the invasion, being close to occupied Crimea.

The UN has condemned the Russian invasion.

Over 800,000 refugees have fled the country.

Reports exist that the Chinese instructed the Russians not to commence the invasion during the Olympics.

Martch 3, cont.

The massive Russian convoy north of Kyiv that has received so much attention appears to actually be a series of smaller ones that are stalled.

Ukranian sources claim to have attacked it, which the US says it does not doubt, but it also seems that it may be at least partially stalled due to breakdowns and fuel issues.

March 4, 2022

Situation as of March 4, 2022, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

The Russians are expanding their toe hold in the north and beginning to advance more into western Ukraine with a clear, if early, trend in the expansion of that offensive commencing.  The are also clearly now closing their pincer's in the northeast and shall likely hold a greatly expanded area in the north east within a few days.  It's beginning to therefore become plain that their goal is to take the entire country, although the rate at which they are progressing is much slower than would have been anticpated.

Yesterday buildings at the nuclear power plant at Enerhodar caught fire during the seige there.

Russian Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky, commander of the Russian 7th Airborne Division and a deputy commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army, was killed by a Ukranian sniper.

March 5, 2022


Situation as of March 5, 2022, 2022.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg  Viewsridge - Own work, derivate of Russo-Ukraine Conflict (2014-present).svg by Rr016 based on map provided by BNO News

Russian forces in the south made a rapid advance to the nortwest interior yesterday, although their advance is thin.

Ceasefires were agreed to pertaining to two secondary cities in order that civilians could evacuate.  The cities are Mariupol and Volnovakha.  Mariupol is a port city that has repeatedly been reported as captured, but obviously fighting continues there.

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham stated yesterday that a Russian assasination of Puti would be the only way "that this ends".

Reports have been made that Russia dispatched two seperate mercenary groups in an effort to assasinate President Zelenskyy, who has survived three attempts so far. This would be a clearly illegal action even in the context of war with it being notable that during the Second World War no nation went so low as to attempt the same.

Russia has blocked access to Facebook in its ongoing effort to prevent the news of the war and its attack upon its neighbor from reaching its citizens.  It earlier imposed fifteen year prison sentences as a penalty for reporteres going against the official line of Putin's government concerning the assault upon the neighboring country.

China blocked Premier League soccor coverage based on an expresed intent for teams to stand with Ukraine.

Remington and Federal are each providing 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition to Ukraine, gratus.

Italy has seized some yachts belonging to Russian oligarchs.

Soprano Anna Netrebko has resigned from the Metropolitan Opera after refusing to renounce Putin.  Netrebko is from the Russian city of Krasnodar, just east of Crimea.  Interestingly, the last name would indicate Ukranian heritage.

North Korea

The Stalin theme park of North Korea fired its ninth ballistic missle of the year, the second one since the Russian invasion of Ukraine started.  This isn't surprising, as nobody is paying any attention to the pathetic state during the current crisis.

Related Thread:

Thursday, January 9, 2020

President Trump addresses the nation on Iran.

President Trump addressed the nation yesterday on the conflict with Iran.  He stated the following.
As long as I’m president of the United States Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Good morning.  
I’m pleased to inform you, the American people should be extremely grateful and happy. No Americans were harmed in last night’s attack by the Iranian regime. We suffered no casualties. All of our soldiers are safe,, and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases.  
Our great American forces are prepared for anything. Iran appears to be standing down, which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world. No American or Iraqi lives were lost because of the precautions taken, the dispersal of forces, and an early warning system that worked very well. 
I salute the incredible skill and courage of America’s men and women in uniform. For far too long, all the way back to 1979 to be exact, nations have tolerated Iran’s destructive, and destabilizing behavior in the middle East and beyond. Those days are over. Iran has been the leading sponsor of terrorism, and their pursuit of nuclear weapons threatens the civilized world. We will never let that happen. Last week, we took decisive action to stop a ruthless terrorist from threatening American lives.  
At my direction, the United States military eliminated the world’s top terrorist, Quasem Soleimani. As the head of the Quds force, Soleimani was personally responsible for some of the absolutely worst atrocities.  He trained terrorists armies, including Hezbollah, launching terrorist strikes against civilian targets. He fueled bloody civil Wars all across the region. He viciously wounded, and murdered thousands of US troops, including the planting of roadside bombs that may him and dismember their victims. Soleimani directed the recent attacks on US personnel in Iraq, that badly wounded for service members, and killed one American, and he orchestrated the violent assault on the US Embassy in Baghdad. In recent days, he was planning new attacks on American targets, but we stopped him. 
Soleimani’s hands were drenched in both American and Iranian blood. He should have been terminated long ago. By removing Soleimani, we have sent a powerful message to terrorists. If you value your own life, you will not threaten the lives of our people. As we continue to evaluate options in response to Iranian aggression, the United States will immediately impose additional punishing economic sanctions on the Iranian regime. These powerful sanctions will remain until Iran changes it’s behavior. In recent months alone Iran’s sea ships in international waters fired an unprovoked strike on Saudi Arabia, and shot down to US drones. Iran’s hostilities substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013, and they were given $150 billion not to mention $1.8 billion in cash. Instead of saying thank you to the United States, they chanted death to America. 
In fact, they chanted death to America the day the agreement was signed. Then Iran went on a terrorist spree, funded by the money from the deal, and created hell in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan, and Iraq. The missiles fired last night at us, and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration. The regime also greatly tightened the reins on their own country. Even recently killing 1500 people, at the many protests that are taking place all throughout Iran. The very defective JCPOA expires shortly anyway, and gives a ran a clear and quick path to nuclear breakout. 
Iran must abandon its nuclear ambitions and end its support for terrorism. The time has come for the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia, and China to recognize this reality. They must now break away from the remnants of the Iran deal, or JCPOA, and we must all work together toward making a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer, and more peaceful place. We must also make a deal that allows Iran to thrive and prosper and take advantage of its enormous untapped potential. Iran can be a great country. Peace and stability cannot prevail in the Middle East as long as the Iran continues to foment violence, unrest, hatred and war. The civilized world, must send a clear and unified message to the Iranian regime. Your campaign of terror, murder, mayhem will not be tolerated any longer. It will not be allowed to go forward. 
Today, I am going to ask NATO to become much more involved in the Middle East process. Over the last three years. Under my leadership, our economy is stronger than ever before, and America’s achieved energy independence. These historic accomplishments shades our strategic priorities. These are accomplishments that nobody thought were possible, and options in the Middle East became available. We are now the number one producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world. We are independent and we do not need Middle East oil. The American military has been completely rebuilt under my administration at a cost of two point $5 trillion. US armed forces are stronger than ever before. 
Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal, and fast. Under construction, are many hypersonic missiles. The fact that we have this great military and equipment, however, does not mean we have to use it. We do not want to use it. American strength, both military, and economic is the best deterrent. Three months ago after destroying 100% of ISIS, and its territorial caliphate, we killed the savage leader of ISIS al-Baghdadi who is responsible for so much death, including the mass beheadings of Christians, Muslims, and all who stood in his way. He was a monster. al-Baghdadi was trying again to rebuild the ISIS caliphate and failed. Tens of thousands of ISIS fighters have been killed or captured during my administration. 
ISIS is a natural enemy of Iran. The destruction of ISIS is good for Iran, and we should work together on this and other shared priorities. Finally, to the people and leaders of Iran, we want you to have a future and a great future, one that you deserve. One of prosperity at home, and harmony with the nations of the world. The United States is ready to embrace peace with all who seek it. I want to thank you, and God bless America. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
This then is the stated reason for the new situation with Iran.  As we noted yesterday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo seems to be instrumental in this new direction.  What is clear is that the Administration targeted Solemani because he was a principal Iranian paramilitary commander involved with Iran's sponsorship of foreign, illegal, terrorist militias. 

What isn't clear is if nature of Iran's response was really contemplated.  It might have been, and should have been, but it might not have been.  Those over acclimated to terrorism may have thought that Iran would simply regard this as costs of the game and then recalculate the costs.  And indeed, we don't fully know that they won't do that.

If they don't, we also don't know if the Administration war gamed this matter to contemplate a dramatically increased conflict with Iran, which doesn't mean that I'm predicting a full scale conventional war (I'm not, and I think that extremely unlikely).  And it doesn't seem that Iraq's parliament asking us to leave was contemplated, and we don't know how that will play out.

One thing I don't think will occur, in spite of the President's reference to it, is an increased role for NATO in the Middle East.  Indeed, I can't even see where such a request would make sense.  We didn't run this strike against NATO when we did it, and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, while it has been more active in global affairs since the fall of the Soviet Union, is for the defense of Europe.  A person can rationalize that taking on the problems of the Middle East fits that model, but it's really a stretch. And the NATO country that is in the Middle East, Turkey, no doubt has a different view on many things in comparison to the United States, although this Administration has been accommodating to Turkey as the recent events in Kurdish Syria have demonstrated.

Friday, October 11, 2019

The Turkish Spin and a proposal that will be ignored.

According to Turkey, it's invading northern Syria in order to allow 2,500,000 Syrian refugees to return home.

Saladin, the Kurd who conquered the Middle East (and who spent more time fighting fellow Muslims than he did Christians, although he certainly fought Christians too).  He lived in the last era in which things were on the downside for the Kurds, 800 years ago.

Hmmm . . . all for humanitarian reasons you see.

The endless spins that the current situation in Northern Syria creates are mind boggling.  We armed a Syrian rebel group composed of Kurdish militias to take on the Syrian government under the quixotic belief that disparate light infantry bands could take on a modern armored army back by the Russians without direct U.S. involvement.  That was naive in the extreme, and no less of military expert (and I mean that sincerely) as John McCain lobbied for it. 

We should have know that was absurd from the onset. 

Toppling the Syrian Baathist regime was always going to require direct western military involvement to be followed by at least a decade, if not more, of western occupation of the country.

No matter, we ended up committing some troops and, beyond that, we gave moral and material support to the one entity in the war that wasn't either comprised of Islamic extremist or incompetents, the Kurds.

The Kurds can't be blamed for rising up in rebellion on their own ground.  They now have a quasi state in Iraq and they've been where they are on the ground in Syria for eons.  They'd have their own country now if Woodrow Wilson's alterations of the map of Turkey that ended up in the Treaty of Sevres had come into full fruition.  That would have required more American involvement in diplomacy in 1919-20, more military backbone for an already tired France and Britain at the same time (heck, they were both already bogged down in Russia and the British were fighting a war in part of its own "united" kingdom, who can blame them for not getting tied down in Turkey), less greed and blood lust on the part of Greece, and less bizarre territory avarice on the part of Italy.

That would have been asking for a lot.

So, the Ottoman's fell and the Allies carved up the Ottoman Empire as they saw fit, splitting the Ottoman Kurdistan into three separate state administered by three different sovereigns, to which we might add that a World War One neutral, Persia, already was another entity they had to deal with.

And so now, one of our NATO allies is invading a region occupied by one of our Syrian rebellion allies, which we armed, with the invading army using military equipment designed by us and our ally, Germany (most Turkish weapons, but not all, are produced in Turkey) because our President decided to stand aside after we'd already made all the inconsistent commitments. Added to this, this means that Turkey is now effectively the military ally of the Syrian government which will come in and occupy northern Syria as soon as the Turks have subdued the Kurds.

What can be done about this now?

Well, maybe not much. 

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, one of Trumps most solid supporters, is outwardly outraged and has sponsored a bill to sanction Turkey.  It'll pass. Wyoming's Congressman Liz Cheney, who has been more independent regarding Trump than we might suppose, is also supporting it.

But what will sanctions do now?  It won't force Turkey out of Syria and it won't stop their invasion.  Shoot, by the time any sanctions come into effect, the Turks will be out and the Syrians back in.

Just how successful have our sanctions in the region been anyway?  Iran hasn't collapsed.  Syria's government is going to win its civil war.

No, what the sanctions will likely do is to drive Turkey into the arms of the arch conspirator Vladimir Putin.  And we don't need that.  It'll be a marriage of convenience, but Putin will be just fine with that.

A better proposal, now that we have blood on our hands and have allowed this mess to occur, would be to require the Turks to remain where they are supervised by a United Nations peacekeeping force. That would be a direct UN intervention in the Syrian civil war and it might be hard to bring about. Absent that, as Turkey remains a NATO ally, the next best proposal would be for a joint NATO force to occupy the region until a real peace settlement can be reached. Failing that, we should see about occupying it in place of the Turks, which the Turks probably wouldn't be too keen on now. And failing all of that, the Turks should just stay there in a supervised fashion until Syria joins the 21st Century with it being made clear that should they screw up, they'll have no friends in the west at all.

But none of this will occur.

An actual reason, if not a necessarily a moral one, or even a good one, to stand aside in northern Syria. . . Realpolitik

But there's a catch to it.

Kissinger.  He probably wouldn't have stopped the Turks either. . . but he wouldn't have gone into Syria in the first place and he wouldn't have offered the Kurds false hopes.  Shoot, he'd have made it look like we were doing the right thing, even if we weren't.

Turkey has been our ally since 1945. Technically, but fairly hypocritically, Turkey became an American ally when it declared war on Germany in February 1945.

Turkey never fired a shot in World War Two (making Donald Trump's line about the Kurds not being with us in Normandy all the more odd).  And Turkey was courted for most of the war by the Germans.  Turkey didn't enter World War Two as it guessed German chances correctly, which didn't mean that it was our pal.  Rather, Germany had been close to Turkey since the Imperial German and Imperial Ottoman days. The fall of the Kaiser and the Emperor hadn't disrupted that.

And Turkey both had designs on Turkish Central Asia and feared the Soviet Union, which it had good reason to do.  There's little reason to doubt that if the Germans had entered Moscow in 1941 and pushed the Soviets over the Volga at Stalingrad in 1942 the Turks would have entered the war and crossed the Soviet frontier, taking Soviet Central Asia.  But Ataturk and his men had a better historical memory than Hitler and his cronies, and the Turks weren't convinced that the Soviets would fall.

They also weren't convinced that they wouldn't cross the Turkish frontier in 1944 or 45, so they threw in with the Allies at the bitter end to help avoid that.

After the war the Turks sided with the west as it feared the Soviets, and rightly so.  Turkey fought with the United Nations in Korea.  It was a steadfast NATO and American ally against the Soviet Union.  It allowed the US to position nuclear missiles on its territory in the late 50s and early 60s.  It allowed U2 flights to take off from its airfields and cross its frontier into the USSR.

And it might be a useful ally against the Russians today.

All of that is highly cynical.  Turkey has gone from being a country basically ruled by its military, which possessed a veto power over its civilian government, to a shaky democracy with an Islamist prime minister.  As its done that, it's been less and less friendly to American positions in the world, but the relationship remains.

Presuming that Turkey doesn't fall into being an Islamic republic, and take the same path as Pakistan or, worse yet, Iran (and it probably won't), the alliance between the two nations could remain useful.

But that means that the United States has to accommodate itself to Turkish suppression of the Kurds. Or at least it might.

Playing both side of an alliance; being an ally of a sovereign nation and opposing its armed foreign positions can be done, but it's really tricky.  Dwight Eisenhower followed by John F. Kennedy did that in regard to the French in Algeria, whom we did not support even though they were a NATO ally.  Eisenhower also managed that in regard to Israel, France and the UK during the Suez crisis, telling those nations close to us not only that they were on their own but that they had no business intervening in Egypt.  And the US sort of managed that with the UK in Ireland, although never in any official sort of way.

Maybe we could pull that off in regard to the Kurds, who deserve their own state, and a state that would make Turkey a smaller one. But that would be really tough.  That worked in regard to Ireland only because the British were headed in that direction anyhow, and they judged an ongoing relationship with the United States something not to be disrupted.

Which is part of the reason that you need to think out your interventions before you get in.

When we went into Syria, there was no way that we weren't going to end up supporting the Kurds there. After all, we had done that very thing with the Kurds in Iraq.

And that was always going to make Turkey highly uncomfortable.

So at that point, you really have to ask, do you value Kurdish liberty over Turkish support against the Russians, if you need it?

If you don't ask that question, you're going to end up blowing something. Either the Turks become enraged with the US, or the Kurds do.

Make no mistake about it.  We have betrayed the Kurds. And we didn't even do it in the Machiavellian Kissinger way of selling somebody out while pretending we aren't.  We've done something wrong.

And that error started when we didn't think out Syria well in the first place.

And perhaps now, all the damage that can be done, has been.  We've betrayed the Kurds and the Turks have already started to become a shaky ally. So nothing has been achieved.

Wednesday, October 9, 2019

Turkey's grievances against the United States (according to the Wall Street Journal)

Turkey is about to invade northern Syria in order to take on the Kurds, our allies, there. (I started this before the in fact did do just that)  They have a green light in this from President Trump.

Most people who have looked at this have been horrified.  The Kurds have put up an admirable successful fight against long odds, aided in party by their long martial history obtained while trying to secure a state of their own.

A few pundits, however hold the opposite view and feel that Trump is correct. Very few, and most of them put their opinions in much different terms than Trump has.  But, giving them their due, what could be the basis for pulling out and handing over an ally to their enemies.  Well, no less of journal than the Wall Street journal has declare has declared that the Turks have a point in being upset with the Untied States.

But do any of them justify stepping aside and allowing Turkey to invade northern Syria in order to put down the Kurds.  Only one, and only if you agree with the logic of taking sides.

The Journal notes that the Turks cooperated with the U.S. effort in Syria in spite of having misgivings, but that the U.S. didn't rally to its defense when it shot down a Russian combat aircraft. That action, which occurred during the Obama Administration, is very shoddy treatment of an ally, but it doesn't justify an invasion of Kurdish Syria.  The Journal also notes that the United States has been harboring an odd religious figure who is in opposition to the Turkish government and whom some believe is associated with a recent coup attempt.  That also is plenty reason for the Turkish administration to distrust the US but it's also no reason to invade Kurdish Syria.

The real reason to take that position, and the only one that makes sense as an argument, it that the US, in order to combat ISIL in Syria, armed one of the Kurdish militias which we've formerly branded as a terrorist organization and which has caused lots of deaths in Turkey in the past.  That would be a shocking proposition for Turkey and hard for it to accept. And defeating that militia, which is aligned against it, is something that the Turks would wish for.

But here's the rub.

There's no justifying terrorism in any sense. But there's also no good justification for occupying the lands of another people. The Turks are occupying part of Kurdistan and some Kurds are reacting with violence, and have been for a long time.  Neither position is acceptable.

But quite often we excuse one or the other.  People will glorify Michael Collins, the Irish terrorist leader, and refuse to accept he was a terrorist who was seeking Irish Independence by illegitimate, if successful, means.  Irish desires for independence were legitimate and the British occupation became illegitimate. But one doesn't excuse the other in either direction.  Likewise some have glorified any other number of terrorist organizations along similar lines or those opposing them.

So Turkey has a legitimate beef about the U.S. again under President Obama, arming the Kurds. But then the Kurds have a legitimate beef with Turkey for occupying their territory when they are not wanted there, particularly in light of the fact that its a historical accident that Kurdistan is not a state while Syria is, even though both were Ottoman territories until 1918.  If Turkey has been our ally since more or less 1945 (it really wasn't in any sense before that), it still doesn't excuse this oddity any more than the United Kingdom being our ally meant that we should have opposed Irish independence.

And on the status of Turkey being an ally of the United States, it is, in a formal sense.  It's a member of NATO.  But it's an ally because it was an opponent of the Soviet Union, the dangerous Communist state that was once on its border.  Being a democratic state was not a requirement for being a member of NATO.  Turkey often was, but it sometimes wasn't, a status it ironically shared with Greece, which fought a war with Turkey, while both were members of NATO, over Cyprus.  It was a minor war, but a war none the less.

NATO membership is still important, to be sure, but the dynamics that lead Turkey into the western alliance have changed.  The United States was allied to more than one less than democratic nation during the Cold War.  Since the end of the Cold War the necessity for such alliances had diminished, and with it the necessity that an allied power meet certain standards should have risen.

The problems begin when those standards start to be applied here.  Turkey is our long time ally, as noted above, and is using some American armor in its invasion.  The Kurds are largely left wing socialist in orientation. But the Kurds are fighting for what we said we were for in 1917-18 and claim to have been for every since, the right to national self determination.  Turkey is a state that retains remnants of its Ottoman past principally in the form of having a large Kurdish territory within its borders.  

In the end, the Turkish fight with the Kurds is over that.  They'd like out, the Turks would like to keep them in, whether they like it or not.  They're not a small group that can be ignored like some other ethnicities that are too small to form a viable state.  And a Kurdish state right now would likely be among the most western and most secular in the region.  The fact that there isn't such a state is itself a remnant of 1918, when the European powers carved up the region based upon their own ideas, and apparently none of those ideas reflected an independent Kurdistan.

Anyway its looked at, if we'd stayed in, the Turks likely would have stayed out.  If that would have weakened our relationship to the current Turkish government, that frankly likely wouldn't have mattered much.  It likely also would not have lead to a Kurdish state. But it might have kept the bloodshed we see now from occurring.