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Saturday, February 25, 2023

A question that should be asked. Who are the dupes, fellow travelers, and assets? Op eds and the Russians.


Tucker Carlson has a lot of negative things to say about supporting the Ukrainian war effort.1

Just recently, one of the major news outlets drug a 1960s vintage peacenik out of the closet with an "Ukraine can't win" editorial.

Some oddball Representative from Georgia keeps saying we're giving too much to Ukraine.

Why is this happening?

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Russo Ukrainian War.

The Institute for the Study of War credits Russia with a real information false flag, in the form of media propoganda designed to suggest back in December that they were ready for peace talks, when they were not.  This, the Institute maintains, delayed the supplying of armor to Ukraine.

There's no reason whatsoever to believe at this point that the Russians are aiming for anything else than the complete defeat of Ukraine.



Okay, let's start with this.  Americans have a long isolationist streak in which we tend to believe that we can basically close the door on our North American home and remain safe from the world, while it fights out its problems.  We've thought this pretty much from day one, even though, at the same time, it's never ever been true and, moreover, we've often messed with other areas of the world.  American intervention in far off lands is another topic, which we're not dealing with in this thread, but we will note isolationism, as we've long had an isolationist streak.

Indeed, some of us thought we could avoid World War One even as American commercial ships went down in the cold Atlantic and the servants of the Kaiser, while not plotting how to win the war by sending Lenin to Russia, plotted on ways to get Mexico to attack the US.  In the end, we couldn't avoid that one.

And some of us thought we could avoid World War Two until the Japanese decided we would not.

After the Second World War, some of us thought that we could ignore things again until the Soviets exploded an atomic bomb, blockaded Berlin, and invaded North Korea.

It turns out that yelling "say off my lawn" doesn't actually cause people not to stay off your lawn, which doesn't deter people from thinking that it might work this time.



Also, there is a real, and sincere, group of Americans who feel that the war is a tragedy, but it's not our tragedy, and it's too expensive, or perhaps too dangerous, to be involved with in any fashion.

Okay, that's an honest opinion. I don't agree with it, but it's honest.

Added to that, there are those who have looked at the Ukrainian situation and believe it's simply hopeless.  To credit them a bit, while I think they're wrong, figuring out a winning strategy for Ukraine is a little difficult, so this line of thought is now without a logical basis.  Those folks think investing in a doomed effort is economically risky and merely prolonging a war leading to an ultimate Ukrainian defeat.



There are also some who genuinely admire Putin.

There were Americans who admired Hitler and Mussolini.  Truly, there was.  They thought, basically, that the world was going down the flusher and fascism offered a strong backed way out of that situation.  By the same token, there were plenty on the left who thought Stalin was just nifty for the same reason.

Currently, there are those on the far right, often on the National Conservatism spectrum, who are willing to overlook all his hypocrisy in order to conclude that Putin is an Orthodox Democratic Caudillo whose example is admirable.  Sure, his troops rape and murder, but gosh, he stands for . . . well anyway.

Okay, so there's that group.


And then there are those who simply profit off of taking extreme positions.  Carlson is almost certainly in that camp.  He says something outrageous and people comment on him.  Marjorie Taylor Greene's entire fame seems based on this.  Greene may believe what she's saying, assuming her stream of thought is pretty shallow, and Tucker may just like the Green and not really even be all that invested in what he's saying, other than being invested in the cash of what he's saying.  He has to keep saying stupid crap to draw in an audience that expects it.


And then there's fifth columnist and Russian assets.

It's worth pondering how many op ed voices are people who are in Russia's orbit through pay, or compromise.

I'd wager that some are, and perhaps considerably more than we might suppose.

It's very well established that the Soviet Union maintained an extensive disinformation campaign during its lifespan, and the Russians have kept it up.  During the Soviet era, this included employing some journalists.  The most effective World War Two era Soviet spy, Richard Sorge, was a German journalist.  Whitaker Chambers, the writer, was a Soviet spy until he defected in 1938, prior to his time as a journalist for Time.  Journalist I. F. Stone, well known in his time, may have been a Soviet spy.  British journalist Cedric Belfrage was a Soviet spy.

And this doesn't touch, of course, other influential people who were Soviet assets.  Harry Dexter White, for example, was a very influential figure in the Roosevelt Administration who was also working with the Soviets.

Now, one thing about the Soviet fellow travelers is that most of them, but not all of them, tended to occupy that role due to left wing sympathies.  It would, quite frankly, be hard to believe that very many Americans today really have strong Putinist sympathies of that type.

But money is another matter.

And so do long held ties.

We already know from Tucker Carlson's example that figures loudly yapping one thing on television may hold the polar opposite opinion in private.  They're willing to say, at least to some extent, what they're saying on TV as it pays.  

There's no reason to believe that pay that comes through a Russian contact, as opposed to advertising, isn't as influential to those who might be willing to compromise their beliefs.

And, like prostitution, once a person starts selling their opinion just a little bit, they're pretty much in it no matter what, as they're compromised.  A few bucks here to say that Putin isn't such a bad guy a few years ago can easily turn into being compelled to claim that Ukrainians are Nazis now.

Moreover, for old voices, fellow traveler money that was around in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, taints.  Nobody wants to be sitting in near genteel retirement in College Town USA to find that they were paid a few rubles in a prior era as they were convenient to that fellow traveler.  In that case, writing the Ukrainians Will Lose op ed for the papers, after being suggested that you should, probably can be rationalized to not be all that different from being for radical social justice in the 60 through 80s.

Sound too much like a story line from The Americans?  Well, maybe it should.

But some of the media opposition to Ukraine is a little odd.  It's worth considering.


Footnotes:

1.  No, I am not saying that Carlson is a Russian asset.  Why anyone listens to him for any reason whatsoever is another matter.

Wednesday, December 28, 2022

What is wrong with the Putin supporting right?

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For those who have not seen this clip of one Tucker Carlson, Trumpite pundit, mocking the appearance of President Zelenskyy in Congress, you need to, truly.

Tucker Carlson mocking applause for Zelenskyy.

How can somebody acting so childish be taken so seriously by a selection of Americans?

Beyond that, how can people actually support the Russians side of a war of aggression, based upon pure Russian Great Slavism?  Fiscal worries, where genuine, are one thing. Narrow-minded, truly, but one thing. Outright supporting the swallowing of Ukraine in the name of Russian Slavic dominance, quite another.

It's the difference, for the history minded, between "supporting the British will be expensive" and thinking that Anschluß is nifty.

What the heck?

Some of this we have to dismiss as the crowd that's fallen for the grifter.

Grifters were originally associated with carnivals, and while it's an insult, it's one that we need to keep in mind implies a relationship.  A grifter can't peddle his graft without an audience.  

The word grifter nearly went out of circulation up until Donald Trump, but now it's come roaring back as a term frequently applied to Trump.  The thing about grifters is that they don't believe their line, but the audience does.

Is Donald J. Trump really a God-fearing Christian man of solid conservative values who seeks to Make American Great Again?

Leaving the Make American Great Again tag line, which is a line that can mean pretty much whatever you want it to, what we know about Trump really is that he's a New York businessman whose made huge sums of money and lost huge sums of money, mostly in real estate.  He was a Democrat for most of his life.  He's of the Vietnam War Era generation, but he didn't serve, having a deferment for shin splints that some have questioned.  He has a BS in economics from the Wharton School of Business, which is generally regarded as the best business school in the United States (Secretary of State elect Chuck Gray is also a graduate of Wharton).  He's been married three times, twice to Eastern European immigrants and once to beauty figure Marla Maples, whom he married shortly after she give birth to their daughter Tiffany.  What can we tell from that?

Well, maybe not all that much, really. Making, and losing, a lot of money is not as hard as it sounds if you were born with a lot of money.  He's certainly not lead a very Christian life in terms of personal conduct with women, but if he's a true Calvinist, which would be assuming a lot, he may figure it doesn't matter.  The best evidence is that whatever he once was, he's become a narcissist who know that he can sell any line to his audience, and what he's been selling has morphed, under the Führerprinzip, is Christian Illiberal Nationalism.  Do I think he's a Christian Illiberal Nationalist?  Probably not really, but that's what's selling.

And that's what's selling for Fox News and Newsmax also. 

So what that might tell us is that Tucker Carlson might not particularly believe a word he's saying.  But it sells.

But if that's true, he's giving it the pretty hard sell.

Let's mention one thing about presentation, before we go on.  Some of Trump's presentation is deeply weird, and Carlson's is as well.  The clip linked in above is massively weird.  An intelligent audience would have to be repulsed by it.

But, as Catholic Apologist Jimmy Akin says, "sin make you stupid".  And truly it does.  Much of Trump's presentation is stupid, and Tucker's, linked in above, is also.  Indeed, a vast amount of the Trumpite populist right says things that are stupid, to the horror of other conservatives (such as myself) who can't fathom the wallowing in stupidity.

But wallowing they are, and like a bunch of teenage boys sitting in the back of the bus making fun of people and farting for amusement, we have a whole swath of the current GOP acting in much the same fashion.  And also like such boys, as others look up and say "quit being so stupid", they feel insulted by having their stupidity pointed out and double down on it.

At some point, normally, people grow up and put away childish things.  Chances are that a lot of the people who are now repeating the baloney we hear all the time will deny they ever said it.  But we're not there yet.

Linking this in, Donald Trump has some sort of weird love affair with Vladimir Putin.  A person can truly debate what it is, but it is there.  It may be that Putin is a strong man, and he admires that.  It could be that Putin, who is extremely intelligent, if extremely isolated, did a good job of reading Trump and flattered him to the extent that Trump now loves Putin.

Or it could be something more sinister.

The relationship between Trump and Putin has always been so odd, and Trump has so gone out of his way to help the Russians except when being restrained from doing so, that it's reasonable to ask if Trump is a Russian asset of some sort.  We've discussed that here before.

That wouldn't make Trump's acolytes Russian assets, but they don't have to be.  Whatever it is, Trump admires Putin, so he says fawning things regarding him, and nasty things about his opponents, and Trump's followers go there on the Führerprinzip and take it further.  That requires, at some point, falling in love with Putin yourself and repeating Russian propaganda.

Additionally, Trump has a bit of a vested interest in seeing Ukraine go down in defeat.  The Russians did hurt Hillary Clinton, aiding Trump, by getting into the DNC computers, which Trump was not responsible for but which did help.  Trump himself made a public, flippant, comment regarding breaking into Democratic computers before it was known to have occurred in the 2016 campaign.  And Trump's first impeachment trial prominently featured Ukraine, based on things that he asked Ukraine to do, and they didn't.  There's likely no love lost between Trump and Zelenskyy, and accordingly, Trumpism is naturally aligned with Putinism.

But maybe there's more than that, and maybe that something is that Trumpites and Putin are fellow travelers.

Before Viktor Mihály Orbán became the darling of Illiberal Democrats and Trumpites, that position was occupied by Vladimir Putin.1

At one time, it was easy to forget that under Putin, Russia backslid into an autocratic state.  Russia came out of the collapse of the Soviet Union as a democracy, but a troubled one.  Putin pulled it away from that back into a one party state, although like a lot of one party states, it retains a theoretical legislative body. The Soviet Union had one, and so did Imperial Russia.  They really aren't in control, nor are the people.

Indeed, in some ways, the Russian people are worse off, in terms of control of their own government, than they've ever been, although that's certainly debatable.  Under the Czar, the Czar actually claimed title to the entire country and everything in it, and even going up into World War One he was free to actually rule by dictate, just as Putin is now.  But, for all its ills, and there were a lot of them (the state of Imperial Russia going into the Great War was pathetic), the Czar was bound by a duty to the Russians and his non Russian subjects, imperfect though it was, and it was very imperfect.  

Under the Soviets, as monstrous as they were, there was at least the overarching theory that they were "the people".

Putin's Russia is for what Putin thinks it should be for.

During the time period before the completely obvious descent into authocracy, when people could still pretend that Russia was democratic, or be fooled that it was, Putin began to enact a series of social laws, and engaged in certain alignments, which, if you could set aside that the country wasn't democratic, appealed to the Western political right.  Putin has completely rejected the Western evolution on tolerance of homosexuality, for example.  Putin has facially embraced Christianity in the form of the Russian Orthodox Church, and it has embraced him, although his real adherence to its tenants can be questioned.  

The point is that a deeply conservative American political right could look to Putin, like it now looks towards Viktor Orbán as somebody who is democratic in the right way.  I.e., not politically liberal and not even letting "progressisim" out of the box.  I.e., somebody who can stand with the prinicpals of "National Conservatism", something we explored here earlier.2

The entire "Statement of Prinpcals" for National Conservatism, which postdates the far right's love affair with Putin, is posted below, but the real core of their swooning over Putin is in these:

4. God and Public Religion. No nation can long endure without humility and gratitude before God and fear of his judgment that are found in authentic religious tradition. For millennia, the Bible has been our surest guide, nourishing a fitting orientation toward God, to the political traditions of the nation, to public morals, to the defense of the weak, and to the recognition of things rightly regarded as sacred. The Bible should be read as the first among the sources of a shared Western civilization in schools and universities, and as the rightful inheritance of believers and non-believers alike. Where a Christian majority exists, public life should be rooted in Christianity and its moral vision, which should be honored by the state and other institutions both public and private. At the same time, Jews and other religious minorities are to be protected in the observance of their own traditions, in the free governance of their communal institutions, and in all matters pertaining to the rearing and education of their children. Adult individuals should be protected from religious or ideological coercion in their private lives and in their homes.

* * * 

8. Family and Children. We believe the traditional family is the source of society’s virtues and deserves greater support from public policy. The traditional family, built around a lifelong bond between a man and a woman, and on a lifelong bond between parents and children, is the foundation of all other achievements of our civilization. The disintegration of the family, including a marked decline in marriage and childbirth, gravely threatens the wellbeing and sustainability of democratic nations. Among the causes are an unconstrained individualism that regards children as a burden, while encouraging ever more radical forms of sexual license and experimentation as an alternative to the responsibilities of family and congregational life. Economic and cultural conditions that foster stable family and congregational life and child-raising are priorities of the highest order.

Putin, like Franco in a way, sort of seemed to stand, and still does seem to stand, for a society being deeply rooted in its Christian traditions.

Indeed, as we've noted, Putin, more than any post Soviet leader, has made a public display of aligning himself with the Russian Orthodox Church.  The Russian Orthodox Church has not made any concessions to "progressivism" of any kind. There are no Father James Martin, S.J. figures in the Russian Orthodox Church.

This sort of social conservatism has much broader appeal to many people than the Progressive Left can imagine.  Even in highly secularized France, for instance, the government's establishment of same gender marriages brought out a massive protest in the streets of Paris.  People everywhere have a strong sense that the left is dangerously and bizarrely out to sea on many issues, and part of the reaction to that is a grasping to restore a common cultural understanding of existential matters, a struggle that exists only in Western countries and frankly not elsewhere at all.

But hence the problem of the reaction.  This struggle has been going on for well over a century.  Most people, seemingly, are just waking up to it, in our era, now.  You can argue that it's been going on since the Age of Enlightenment.

The problem here is, and always has been, the natural tendency for people in the struggle to go to the extremes. This is a problem of the left and the right.

Starting with the left, we'd note, with the collapse of the Old Order following World War One, plenty of leftists, liberals and progressives in Western countries were willing to put on blinders and believe that Communist were just Democrats with thick accents.  The editors of the progressive journal, The New Republic, wrote a letter to Stalin, for instance, warning him that people seemed to be doing bad things in his name, completely oblivious to the fact that Stalin was the perpetrator of those bad things.  In the late 1960s and 1970s, members of the American left were willing to pretend that Ho Chi Minh was a misunderstood democrat and always had been, which was very far from the truth.  Early on, people were willing to turn a blind eye to the true political nature of Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega, before simply ignoring the country entirely.

On the right, the same story holds.  Both the left and the right outside of Spain pretended that their sides were something other than what they really were, with the left pretending that the Spanish Republicans were democrats, rather than Communists. The right ignored the autocratic nature of the Nationalist, and perhaps give us the first example of what we're witnessing now.  Franco never pretended to care for democracy, but he always had supporters in the West that pretended Spain was uniquely incapable of it.

Mussolini received praise at one time from none other than Winston Churchill.  Plenty of right wing Republicans said nice things about Adolph Hitler.  

The thing is, most people woke up when they saw that the putative champions of their positions were not what they pretended.  Most America Firsters went on to support the Allied war effort.  Most deluded leftists lost their admiration for Stalin when the true nature of the Soviet state really came out.  Not too many leftists of the 70s run around singing the praises of Ho Chi Minh today.  By the time of Francisco Franco's death in 1975, he had few fans anywhere.

But there is that time when the deluded prefer to remain deluded.  Charles Lindbergh was giving speeches about abandoning the British within days of the U.S. being brought into World War Two.  A handful of Congressmen and Senators remained not only isolationist, but pro fascist, even into the war itself. 

Delusion has a way of making the deluded look, in the end, foolish.  But usually the mass of people who followed the deluded are allowed to fade away due to their obscurity. The person who, for example, called Tom Cotton an "Anti-American Socialist" (apparently not realizing that you can be a patriotic American socialist) will, should Ukraine win and Putin fall, probably go on to recall having been all in favor of the effort.

Something, however, extremely odd is going on now and some people are falling for it.  We should ask what it is.

And for those on the National Democracy track, any sort of democracy still requires democracy.  It's clear in this contest, who that is.

But doees everyone in the far right even support democracy anymore?3

Footnotes:

1.  As an interesting aside, it's interesting to note that only Giorgia Meloni has approached a sort of hero status with the National Conservative right, and she's the only Catholic in the group.  Putin is Russian Orthodox, although his personal adherence to Orthodoxy is questionable.  Orbán and the Hungarian President Katalin Éva Novák are "Reformed" Christians, as was Admiral Horthy, who perhaps may be, in some ways, their intellectual predecessor.

2.  We looked at that in a post that we entitled:

Illiberal Democracy. A Manifesto?

The manifesto itself, linked into its source, stated:

National Conservatism: A Statement Of Principles

A world of independent nations is the only alternative to universalist ideologies seeking to impose a homogenizing, locality-destroying imperium over the entire globe.

JUNE 15, 2022

12:01 AM

THE EDMUND BURKE FOUNDATION

NOTE: The following statement was drafted by Will Chamberlain, Christopher DeMuth, Rod Dreher, Yoram Hazony, Daniel McCarthy, Joshua Mitchell, N.S. Lyons, John O’Sullivan, and R.R. Reno on behalf of the Edmund Burke Foundation. The statement reflects a distinctly Western point of view. However, we look forward to future discourse and collaboration with movements akin to our own in India, Japan, and other non-Western nations. Signatories’ institutional affiliations are included for identification purposes only, and do not imply an endorsement on the part of any institution other than the Edmund Burke Foundation.   

We are citizens of Western nations who have watched with alarm as the traditional beliefs, institutions, and liberties underpinning life in the countries we love have been progressively undermined and overthrown.

We see the tradition of independent, self-governed nations as the foundation for restoring a proper public orientation toward patriotism and courage, honor and loyalty, religion and wisdom, congregation and family, man and woman, the sabbath and the sacred, and reason and justice. We are conservatives because we see such virtues as essential to sustaining our civilization. We see such a restoration as the prerequisite for recovering and maintaining our freedom, security, and prosperity.

We emphasize the idea of the nation because we see a world of independent nations—each pursuing its own national interests and upholding national traditions that are its own—as the only genuine alternative to universalist ideologies now seeking to impose a homogenizing, locality-destroying imperium over the entire globe.

Drawing on this heritage, we therefore affirm the following principles:

1. National Independence. We wish to see a world of independent nations. Each nation capable of self-government should chart its own course in accordance with its own particular constitutional, linguistic, and religious inheritance. Each has a right to maintain its own borders and conduct policies that will benefit its own people. We endorse a policy of rearmament by independent self-governing nations and of defensive alliances whose purpose is to deter imperialist aggression.

2. Rejection of Imperialism and Globalism. We support a system of free cooperation and competition among nation-states, working together through trade treaties, defensive alliances, and other common projects that respect the independence of their members. But we oppose transferring the authority of elected governments to transnational or supranational bodies—a trend that pretends to high moral legitimacy even as it weakens representative government, sows public alienation and distrust, and strengthens the influence of autocratic regimes. Accordingly, we reject imperialism in its various contemporary forms: We condemn the imperialism of China, Russia, and other authoritarian powers. But we also oppose the liberal imperialism of the last generation, which sought to gain power, influence, and wealth by dominating other nations and trying to remake them in its own image.

3. National Government. The independent nation-state is instituted to establish a more perfect union among the diverse communities, parties, and regions of a given nation, to provide for their common defense and justice among them, and to secure the general welfare and the blessings of liberty for this time and for future generations. We believe in a strong but limited state, subject to constitutional restraints and a division of powers. We recommend a drastic reduction in the scope of the administrative state and the policy-making judiciary that displace legislatures representing the full range of a nation’s interests and values. We recommend the federalist principle, which prescribes a delegation of power to the respective states or subdivisions of the nation so as to allow greater variation, experimentation, and freedom. However, in those states or subdivisions in which law and justice have been manifestly corrupted, or in which lawlessness, immorality, and dissolution reign, national government must intervene energetically to restore order.

4. God and Public Religion. No nation can long endure without humility and gratitude before God and fear of his judgment that are found in authentic religious tradition. For millennia, the Bible has been our surest guide, nourishing a fitting orientation toward God, to the political traditions of the nation, to public morals, to the defense of the weak, and to the recognition of things rightly regarded as sacred. The Bible should be read as the first among the sources of a shared Western civilization in schools and universities, and as the rightful inheritance of believers and non-believers alike. Where a Christian majority exists, public life should be rooted in Christianity and its moral vision, which should be honored by the state and other institutions both public and private. At the same time, Jews and other religious minorities are to be protected in the observance of their own traditions, in the free governance of their communal institutions, and in all matters pertaining to the rearing and education of their children. Adult individuals should be protected from religious or ideological coercion in their private lives and in their homes.

5. The Rule of Law. We believe in the rule of law. By this we mean that citizens and foreigners alike, and both the government and the people, must accept and abide by the laws of the nation. In America, this means accepting and living in accordance with the Constitution of 1787, the amendments to it, duly enacted statutory law, and the great common law inheritance. All agree that the repair and improvement of national legal traditions and institutions is at times necessary. But necessary change must take place through the law. This is how we preserve our national traditions and our nation itself. Rioting, looting, and other unacceptable public disorder should be swiftly put to an end.

6. Free Enterprise. We believe that an economy based on private property and free enterprise is best suited to promoting the prosperity of the nation and accords with traditions of individual liberty that are central to the Anglo-American political tradition. We reject the socialist principle, which supposes that the economic activity of the nation can be conducted in accordance with a rational plan dictated by the state. But the free market cannot be absolute. Economic policy must serve the general welfare of the nation. Today, globalized markets allow hostile foreign powers to despoil America and other countries of their manufacturing capacity, weakening them economically and dividing them internally. At the same time, trans-national corporations showing little loyalty to any nation damage public life by censoring political speech, flooding the country with dangerous and addictive substances and pornography, and promoting obsessive, destructive personal habits. A prudent national economic policy should promote free enterprise, but it must also mitigate threats to the national interest, aggressively pursue economic independence from hostile powers, nurture industries crucial for national defense, and restore and upgrade manufacturing capabilities critical to the public welfare. Crony capitalism, the selective promotion of corporate profit-making by organs of state power, should be energetically exposed and opposed.

7. Public Research. At a time when China is rapidly overtaking America and the Western nations in fields crucial for security and defense, a Cold War-type program modeled on DARPA, the “moon-shot,” and SDI is needed to focus large-scale public resources on scientific and technological research with military applications, on restoring and upgrading national manufacturing capacity, and on education in the physical sciences and engineering. On the other hand, we recognize that most universities are at this point partisan and globalist in orientation and vehemently opposed to nationalist and conservative ideas. Such institutions do not deserve taxpayer support unless they rededicate themselves to the national interest. Education policy should serve manifest national needs.

8. Family and Children. We believe the traditional family is the source of society’s virtues and deserves greater support from public policy. The traditional family, built around a lifelong bond between a man and a woman, and on a lifelong bond between parents and children, is the foundation of all other achievements of our civilization. The disintegration of the family, including a marked decline in marriage and childbirth, gravely threatens the wellbeing and sustainability of democratic nations. Among the causes are an unconstrained individualism that regards children as a burden, while encouraging ever more radical forms of sexual license and experimentation as an alternative to the responsibilities of family and congregational life. Economic and cultural conditions that foster stable family and congregational life and child-raising are priorities of the highest order.

9. Immigration. Immigration has made immense contributions to the strength and prosperity of Western nations. But today’s penchant for uncontrolled and unassimilated immigration has become a source of weakness and instability, not strength and dynamism, threatening internal dissension and ultimately dissolution of the political community. We note that Western nations have benefited from both liberal and restrictive immigration policies at various times. We call for much more restrictive policies until these countries summon the wit to establish more balanced, productive, and assimilationist policies. Restrictive policies may sometimes include a moratorium on immigration.

10. Race. We believe that all men are created in the image of God and that public policy should reflect that fact. No person’s worth or loyalties can be judged by the shape of his features, the color of his skin, or the results of a lab test. The history of racialist ideology and oppression and its ongoing consequences require us to emphasize this truth. We condemn the use of state and private institutions to discriminate and divide us against one another on the basis of race. The cultural sympathies encouraged by a decent nationalism offer a sound basis for conciliation and unity among diverse communities. The nationalism we espouse respects, and indeed combines, the unique needs of particular minority communities and the common good of the nation as a whole.

Signed:

Michael Anton

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Christopher Rufo

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3. During the 2022 election campaigns I repeatedly heard people on the far right say the age old, unthinking, "we're not a democracy, we're a republic" as if they mutually exclusive.  We are, of course, a democratic republic.

But, in thinking about it, I think some on the far right truly mean that, and by that they mean that the will of the people really doesn't matter, if it can be overcome, one way or another, at the state and local level.  That provides the only rational basis, I'd note, for the ongoing support of any kind for the Electoral College. Some truly mean that democratic results can, and should, be overturned through legalistic extreme measures.

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Saturday, July 2, 2022

Illiberal Democracy. A Manifesto?

There's something really scary going on in American politics.

The left doesn't seem to grasp it, and most of the rank and file on the populist right that are advancing it are only dimply aware of it.

Relatively recently, we ran an item on illiberal democracy.  Illiberal democracy is something that most Americans have never heard of, including those who are supporting it right now.  But it's not only being advanced, it's coalescing into a defined movement, and it seems clear that there's plenty of people in it who aren't worried about democracy at all, as they look at democracy as liberal democracy and regard it as illegitimate.

And just recently, some of those backing this view, issued a manifesto.

It states:

Okay, first we'll note, what the heck are we doing linking this entire thing in this way and quoting it. Shouldn't we just link this in.

Well, we intend to comment on this at length, quite frankly.  This is important in the context of our times.

Let's start first with the back end, who the singers are.  I don't know most of them, rude peasant than I am, but I do some.  Here's the complete list:

Michael Anton
Hillsdale College Kirby Center
Hillsdale College
Spectator
Hillsdale College Van Andel Graduate School of Government
Center for the Renewal of Culture (Croatia)
Daily Wire
Conservative Partnership Institute
National Review
Edmund Burke Foundation
Internet Accountability Project
Modern Reformation
Conservative Partnership Institute
Election Transparency Initiative
Hoover Institution
Conservative Partnership Institute
Hudson Institute
New York Post
American Conservative
American Conservative
American Reformer
European Conservative (Austria)
Hudson Institute
Merion West (United Kingdom)
Nazione Futura (Italy)
Asia Times
Project 21
Edmund Burke Foundation (Israel)
Newsweek
Trinity Western University (Canada)
Edmund Burke Foundation (Israel)
National Review
Troy University
Federalist
American Greatness
Nasarean.org
New Criterion
Turning Point USA
Claremont Institute
Daily Wire
Center for Immigration Studies
Jagiellonian University (Poland)
Ethics and Public Policy Center
Upheaval
Intercollegiate Studies Institute
Washington Times
Conservative Partnership Institute
Claremont Institute Center for the American Way of Life
AMDC Films
UnHerd
Georgetown University
Mathias Corvinus Collegium (Hungary)
Danube Institute (United Kingdom)
Danube Institute
New Founding
Zephyr Institute
Futuro Presente (Portugal)
New Direction (Poland)
European Centre for Law and Justice (France)
Claremont Institute
First Things
Townhall
Manhattan Institute
Center for Family and Human Rights
American Moment
Common Sense Society
American Moment
Regnery Publishing
Air War College
Be The People News
Founders Fund
Center for Renewing America
Edmund Burke Foundation
Liz Wheeler Show
Claremont Institute
Boise State University

Now, if you are like me, most of those names you don't recognize, but some you probably do, if you are  follower politics, in any event.

And that's interesting in and of itself.

Note some of the names.

Mark Meadows, the former advisor to Trump whom we now know, unless you refuse to believe the testimony of his aid, sat largely on his hands during the recent coup attempt, and who at first cooperated, and then ceased cooperating, with the January 6 Committee.  According to at least one report, his aid was the recipient of one of the "you know what to do" texts, and that Meadows was the source of the instruction, received second hand.

And then there's Rod Dreher, crabby columnist and author of The Benedict Option, who at one time was regarding Western Society as basically a nearly lost cause, and therefore advocating for the aforementioned option. He's known to be fascinated with Illiberal Democracy, and featured prominently in the attention conservatives are now giving to Viktor Orbán.

And we have Victor Davis Hanson, the historian, farmer, and conservative columnist. I love his historical works, but as a columnist he's been hardcore in the Trump camp in an unyielding fashion.

And there's also R. R. Reno, the editor of the excellent journal First Things, but who recently gave an interview that was mildly sympathetic with the views of Patrick Dineen, who regards Liberal Democracy as a failure.

Now, not all of these people are ones that I'd put in this interesting group.  A lot of them are just conservatives.  But that some are in this group, and are prominent in it, is interesting, and telling.

Let's switch to another name for a second, that of Lauren Boebert

Now, nobody is going to believe that Boebert is an intellectual heavyweight.  Far from it.  But she is a well known populist figure right now, and she accordingly shows up in populist shows, like the recent Hageman rally in Casper, Wyoming.  Boebert recently stated:
The reason we had so many overreaching regulations in our nation is because the church complied. The Church is supposed to direct the government, the government is not supposed to direct the church.

That is not how our Founding Fathers intended it. And I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk. That’s not in the Constitution, it was in a stinking letter, and it means nothing like what they say it does.

Boebert, because she's in the news, got a lot of attention for saying this, but she's not unique in having said something like this recently.  A Southern women candidate recently declared that in her state, the church was the state, which is quite a bit more radical than what Boebert stated.

How does this related to "National Conservatism"?

Well, maybe it doesn't.

But maybe it does.

What can be said is this. For the first time since the 1850s we've reached a point in our political discourse where there's one, maybe two, political views that regard the other as wholly illegitimate.  Those espousing illiberal democracy hold that view. All democracy, they argue, must take place within a set of shared, and dictated, beliefs and philosophies.  The drafters of the statement on "National Conservatism" come close to saying that.  Some of them pretty clearly believe that.  Only in that context can you admire Viktor Orbán (or Putin) and only in that context does an effort to overturn a legitimate election make sense.

In that context, we'd note, at the rank and file level, much less justification of the underlying tenants is even necessary.  The political opposition simply became the enemy, whose views are not to be taken seriously, and whose votes don't really count.
Lots of current underlying politics, moreover, makes more sense in this context.  The loss of jobs and the constant ongoing influx of immigrants, for example, takes on another aspect if jobs have been exported to nations that don't share our culture and if the incoming immigrants, in at least some cases, do not share that culture either.  The danger of a reaction to immigration was always present in the post Ted Kennedy immigration regime, as prior to that nearly all immigrants in fact did share the same European based culture.  "Diversity is our strength" has been stated a zillion times, but there's really no evidence whatsoever that this is true and to a large degree average people never believed it.  As the blue collar world has undergone massive change, that was bound to develop into a crisis point.

So too are all of the recent left-wing assaults on ancient institutions.  Radically changed official views on gender, very little of which is based on science, was bound to upset at a street level, and people who have a fundamentally much more traditional view cannot help but react to it.

All of this is consistent with traditional conservatism, we'd note.  But one thing that conservatives in office were always prone to do was compromise, which the populist feel is betrayal.  Compromise does mean that things have continued to move, and largely leftward, up until very recently.

So now we have not only a split in the Republican Party, but there's something deeper going on.  Part of the party does not so much believe that Trump won the election as it does that Democratic votes, coming from the left, were illegitimate by their very nature.  They're looking for a different kind of country.

When Robyn Belinsky stated, in the recent Wyoming Congressional debate, in a muddled babbling way, that "we're not a democracy we're a republic", and then went on to some nonsensical statement about the states, she was trying to seemingly articulate, at the street level, this view.  The states, some now hold, can overrule a national election in the ultimate example of state nullification, in those instances in which an election isn't true to an overarching set of agreed cultural principles.

No doubt, not all of the signators to the document trying to usher in a National Conservative movement hold this view.  Many are probably just deeply conservative, and most conservatives would agree with most of the principals.

But underlying the times there's something else going on.
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